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everyone's analysis is if Trump is the candidate Sec Clinton wins easily. the establishment has no choice but to broker the convention at the convention

The problem faced by the Republican establishment is that whichever candidate they choose from this long circus train, Madame Clinton will win easily.


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Originally Posted by Greger
The problem faced by the Republican establishment is that whichever candidate they choose from this long circus train, Madame Clinton will win easily.
Exactly, which is why I'm reading that the RNC is thinking about drafting Mitt.


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And of course, if they don't pick Trump, off he goes into a Third Party run. The question then would be how many of his voters would also vote for Republican Senators and Representatives or if they would share his irritation with the Republican party. So a Trump run could result in a Democratic Congress for Hillary.

There's also the gender factor. How many women care more about gender than party affiliation? Hillary could end up with unprecedented turnout, just because women would have a chance to vote for the first female President. Does't every woman want to be able to tell her granddauhters she voted for the first female President? 50 years from now, we may not even remember what Republicans were, but we will still have gender.

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It dawns on me, after reading a few articles like this one, that Bernie Sanders may have a better chance than I'm giving him credit for in garnering the Democratic nomination. I know a lot of people planning to vote for him in the primaries but expecting to vote for Madame Clinton in the general election.

It's entirely possible that there are enough of them to actually swing it his way.

On another note, regarding gender, millennials don't trust Hillary and Bernie's message resonates with them... But will they vote in sufficient numbers in the primary elections to make a difference? My youngest wants very much for there to be a woman elected to the Presidency, but she intends to vote for Bernie in the primaries.

Bernie has, without a doubt, won the internet. While mainstream media may not be giving him the coverage he deserves, I see far more coverage of Bernie on the internet than I see of Madame Clinton.

We may actually have a horse race folks.


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Hey Greger!

This board needs someone to replace Donna. You up to the task?


Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please.
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Originally Posted by Greger
Bernie has, without a doubt, won the internet. While mainstream media may not be giving him the coverage he deserves, I see far more coverage of Bernie on the internet than I see of Madame Clinton.

We may actually have a horse race folks.

That would certainly be refreshing. I was just about to post something about the lack of mainstream media coverage of our friend Bernie. You beat me to it ThumbsUp


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Feel the Bern!


You never change things by fighting the existing reality.
To change something, build a new model that makes the old model obsolete.
R. Buckminster Fuller
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There are rumors afoot around the internets that Donald Trump has begun a slump in the polls, giving way to the original batshite crazy Republican candidate Rafael Edward Cruz. You remember him....the freshman Senator out of Texas despised by his peers in Congress and originally given not a snowball's chance is South Texas of ever winning the nomination?
He's the establishment favorite now. Not because they deem him an establishment politician but because compared to Trump he is considered "controllable".


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Feel the Bern!
I'm still not really "feeling the Bern"

And I believe the ever present mistrust of Madame Clinton is misplaced and largely a product of Republican propaganda.


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Originally Posted by Greger
I'm still not really "feeling the Bern"
Given the richness of your cuisine, I'm surprised. smile


You never change things by fighting the existing reality.
To change something, build a new model that makes the old model obsolete.
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