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Ezekiel #283936 12/20/15 05:21 PM
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Sophisticated Trump

What if Donald Trump had elocution lessons? All words verbatim.





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Trump Lead Grows Nationally; 41% of His Voters Want to Bomb Country From Aladdin; Clinton Maintains Big Lead

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PPP's newest national Republican primary poll finds Donald Trump holding his largest lead yet in the wake of Tuesday night's debate. He's at 34% to 18% for Ted Cruz, 13% for Marco Rubio, 7% for Jeb Bush, 6% for Ben Carson, 5% for Chris Christie, 4% each for Carly Fiorina and Mike Huckabee, 2% each for John Kasich and Rand Paul, 1% each for Lindsey Graham and Rick Santorum, and less than 1% each for Jim Gilmore and George Pataki ...

41% of [Trump's] voters think Japanese internment was a good thing, to 37% who don't. And 41% of his supporters would favor bombing Agrabah to only 9% who are opposed to doing that. Agrabah is the country from Aladdin. Overall 30% of Republican primary voters say they support bombing it to 13% who are opposed. We asked the same question of Democrats, and 36% of them opposed bombing Agrabah to 19% in support ...
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If it were simply a matter of disagreeing with Mr. Trump, that would be one thing. But his demagoguery is dangerous to our nation and is pulling out the bigots and hatemongers from dark crevices.

And there is no one on the Republican side who is taking him on except with their own hate and demagoguery.

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41 % of Trump supporters favor bombing a fictional Disney-created country...

Says a lot about his supporters, doesn't it? They probably shouldn't be allowed to operate power tools, much less vote.

Ezekiel #283979 12/22/15 07:36 PM
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The Great Republican Revolt

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The angriest and most pessimistic people in America aren’t the hipster protesters who flitted in and out of Occupy Wall Street. They aren’t the hashtavists of #BlackLivesMatter. They aren’t the remnants of the American labor movement or the savvy young dreamers who confront politicians with their American accents and un-American legal status.

The angriest and most pessimistic people in America are the people we used to call Middle Americans. Middle-class and middle-aged; not rich and not poor; people who are irked when asked to press 1 for English, and who wonder how white male became an accusation rather than a description.

A friend of mine, Tim Sassoon says:

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"IMHO this election will either be pocketbook (Sanders), or national security (Clinton)."

Well I don't how much longer the pocketbook can be ignored. Almost 75% of welfare recipients are the working poor, well over half of Americans are approaching or below poverty level, technological unemployment threatens to swamp both rich and poor alike and take down the system and its foundations leaving little or nothing to rebuild from and meanwhile a sclerotic collection of paranoid malcontents thinks the answer to everything is violence, on global, local and even consumer levels.

Capitalism failed American society in the 1930's. Are we really sure we have the stomach to watch it fail again?


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I sit here and watch the talking heads of TV discuss Trump. Not a one of them like him but, I think, they ALL admire him. Its very strange. It dawned on me to go back to the beginning. He tells his base, every chance he gets, that he is his own man and not beholden to anybody. This, I think, more than anything else, including his colorful, offensive, and thoughtless remarks, is really pertinent. My own suspicion is that the Republicans are sick and tired of their elected who have, obviously, been bought by big money. They support bankers, financials, billionaires, etc. They make no bones about this. I think that the Republican base is offended on a basic, visceral, level and are supporting the guy who has not been bought.

If this is right then there is a huge logical gap. Trump also, at every chance he gets, tells everybody that HE was/is one of the guys who buy politicians. Now, however, apparently, he wants to cut out the middleman. The inference is pretty simple; "elect me and I will do what I have always wanted a president to do - to help ME and do what I think is necessary to help ME". Apparently Trump is the new GM (what's good for Trump is good for America).

In other words perhaps Trump is the signal that we are ready to 'evolve' into some kind of kleptocracy wherein the powerful rule and damn all this democratic voting baloney, whining about the poor, jobless, and sick.

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But you've gotta admit that a Trump presidency would be an interesting thing to watch. Ideally from a different planet.


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I think Trump's campaign signals the end of the Republican Party. The only reason he is so popular with Republican voters is because the rest of the candidates are so lousy. Even a Nixon or a Gerald Ford would have Trump down in single digits, but they don't even have one of those. A George Bush Senior would be the widely-accepted nominee by now, if they had one.

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