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I have a challenge for Sanders supporters who say they could never vote for Clinton:

For every reason you have for not supporting Clinton if she is the nominee, think about it carefully. Was this some BS manufactured Republican outrage or was it a real provable thing?

Clinton has never been indicted or even charged with any crime.

Maybe she is a bit more moderate than you like, but really why the hate? Honestly, I have been searching the anti-Hillary websites and it all looks like partisan BS to me. I wonder if some of these Hillary Haters are actually Republican trolls?

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I suspect the actual numbers of progressive Hillary haters is vastly overestimated. Before Bernie entered the race they were going to vote for Jill Stein anyway. They whipped themselves into a frenzy thinking he could actually become president and took to the internets expounding the virtues of Sanders' impossible goals. I expect their numbers will be more than nullified by the number of right leaning independents and moderate Republican voters who will refuse to vote for Trump.


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Don’t Assume Bernie Sanders Supporters Will Back Hillary Clinton If She’s The Nominee


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“I will never support Hillary Clinton,” said Adam Burch, 28, of Minneapolis. “I identify as a socialist. She stands for everything that I’m against. It’s Bernie or nothing.”

Burch isn’t alone. He's part of a group on social media called Grassroots Action for Bernie that has promised to support only Sanders in the election, using the hashtag “BernieorBust” to spread its message. Similarly, 50,000 people have signed an online pledge to write in Sanders’ name or vote for the Green Party candidate in the general election if the former Secretary of State wins the nomination.


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I'm voting for Hillz if she gets the nom. I won't be happy, but I'll do it.


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50,000 people have signed an online pledge to write in Sanders’ name or vote for the Green Party candidate in the general election if the former Secretary of State wins the nomination.
That many, huh? 50K isn't a drop in the bucket. Like I said, without Bernie they would've sat home anyway or voted Green.
Of those 50K how many are just bloviating and how many are millenials who don't vote anyway?
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Adam Burch, 28, of Minneapolis. “I identify as a socialist
A millenial.
Who apparently trusts government to control every aspect of his life yet doesn't trust it enough to actually vote for whichever candidate best represents him whether he agrees with them 100% or not.

No, Jeff, I don't put much stock in this crowd of Berniebots nor the Green Party voters. I applaud their choice to vote their conscience and I don't fear their numbers. They are too spread out to affect the general election.

If Madame Clinton loses to Donald Trump it will be because Republicans have finally found a charismatic candidate who will bring the crazies out of the woodwork and into the voting booths.
As the primaries have shown, Americans are just not that excited about Bernie Sanders. He's not pulling the minority vote, he's not bringing out the millenials in massive numbers. He's not exciting mainstream Democrats.
There are plenty of states left. If the grassroots, socialist leaning, social networking crowd exists in the numbers you would like to believe, all they have to do is get off their asses and vote for Bernie rather than whining on social media. Democratic primary turnout is quite low and it wouldn't take that many of them to elect Bernie. Where are they? Apparently not voting or not existing in sufficient numbers to sway even the primaries and caucuses.


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BREAKING: Democrats likely will face a third party challenge in the general election

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Every day I read a nutty post like “Why 2016 is Bernie or Bust” or some other proud declaration of war — a defiant promise to sit out the general election if a preferred Democratic primary candidate doesn't become the nominee.

I’ll agree with all good faith fights in the primary — but it is flat-out juvenile, destructive, and irresponsible if you carry that grudge into the general election.


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I'm disappointed that the lame-ass Democrats picked Hillz over Bernie by 50% in South Carolina, that Bernie only won four states on Tuesday. I've made peace with that fact that we will probably have a Madam President along with a First (Lecherous) Man next January.


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Originally Posted by pdx rick
I'm disappointed that the lame-ass Democrats picked Hillz over Bernie by 50% in South Carolina, that Bernie only won four states on Tuesday. I've made peace with that fact that we will probably have a Madam President along with a First (Lecherous) Man next January.

Oh COME ON, you don't give two ***** about Bubba's lecherousness.
ROTFMOL

The reason SC picked the Hildebeast is because too many of them couldn't meet the new standards for
SC's Voter Suppression errrr....ID laws.

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Originally Posted by Jeffery J. Haas
The reason SC picked the Hildebeast is because too many of them couldn't meet the new standards for
SC's Voter Suppression errrr....ID laws.
Yer pro'lly right... Hmm


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It's just that I can't help noticing that Hillary's amazing performance on Tues consisted largely of states she has NO CHANCE of carrying in the general election.


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