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logtroll #285623 03/09/16 04:50 AM
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GW Bush used TARP money for it on his own.
I remember it really pissed off the Republican rank and file. They were calling GM "Government Motors" and swearing they'd never buy another Chevy. More likely it was Obama rather than Bush.

Maybe folks are getting off their asses finally and surging for Bernie. He's got a ways to go but it's still a horse race.


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Originally Posted by NW Ponderer
This is shaping up to be the most consequential race in decades.

Isn't it great to live in such interesting times....


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Bush used TARP for the auto bailout in December 2008
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December 19, 2008, a week after Republicans in the Senate had killed a bailout bill proposed by Democrats, saying it didn’t impose big enough wage cuts on the U.A.W., Bush unilaterally agreed to lend $17.4 billion of taxpayers’ money to General Motors and Chrysler, of which $13.4 billion was to be extended immediately. He had to twist the law to get the money. Deprived of congressional funding, he diverted cash from the loathed TARP program, which Congress had already passed, but which was supposed to be restricted to rescuing the banks. “I didn’t want there to twenty-one-per-cent unemployment,” he said to a meeting of the National Automobile Dealers Association in Las Vegas last month, explaining why he acted as he did. “I didn’t want history to look back and say, ‘Bush could have done something but chose not to do it.’ ”


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Funny. When the "compassionate conservative" finally does something compassionate the other conservatives hate him for it.


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J. Swift would not be surprised...


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Like the second amendment, they only paid attention to the second half.


A well reasoned argument is like a diamond: impervious to corruption and crystal clear - and infinitely rarer.

Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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GOP establishment creeps toward Cruz

If Sen Cruz is the GOP nominee and the Democratic nominee has a "heart attack" we will have a president whose sole intention is the destruction of America and to lay the foundation for Armageddon .... go Trump


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Ted Cruz really creeps me out too. Apparently, creeps his daughter out as well:



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If such a thing can be said, Cruz is far worse than Trump.


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This is shaping up to be the most consequential race in decades.
Actually if you think about it the 2000 election may have been equally consequential. Except "we" lost that one and the consequences were horrendous.

With a President Al Gore it's entirely possible that the 9/11 attack may not have happened. The Afghan and Iraqi wars certainly wouldn't have happened, nor the Great Recession. Perhaps we would not have had our first black president but may have avoided the TEA Party and the radicalization of the Republican Party altogether. Al Gore is an environmentalist and would have supported efforts early on to fight global warming and would have embraced renewable energy sources. Perhaps Hillary Clinton would be our president now and Donald Trump nor Ted Cruz would even be candidates in this election.
Perhaps we'd be poised today to elect Senator Obama as our next President.....


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