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Originally Posted by Jeffery J. Haas
TWell, Bernie Sanders may very well prove to be "Hillary's Conscience", and that is a very good thing for America.
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Like Crassus in the late Roman republic, Trump is a narcissistic sociopath -- though I suppose most of our politicians are sociopaths.

Clinton has exceptional experience and skill, though that skill, at least in foreign affairs, is Satanic. There has never been a war, bombing, torture or wrecking of a country she has not supported and abetted. She is clearly a shill for the military machine.

Trump is quite capable of starting a nuclear war, which Clinton would never intentionally do -- bad for profits.

I suppose the military and the CIA would keep a close watch on President Trump, and take whatever measures were necessary to maintain their cozy relations to money and power -- they might want to rock the boat, but they certainly don't want to overturn it!
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Originally Posted by matthew
I suppose the military and the CIA would keep a close watch on President Trump.

You mean the way they kept a close watch on JFK?
But seriously, have you read "The Art of the Deal?"
Trump will use his considerable used car salesmanship skills to legally figure out a way to get an "enabling act" passed.

I wouldn't bank on the intelligence of our Congress critters to go far enough to see around the corners of his deals.
More than likely most of them are star struck and would fall at his feet, no matter what they say in public.


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Originally Posted by matthew
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Like Crassus in the late Roman republic, Trump is a narcissistic sociopath -- though I suppose most of our politicians are sociopaths.

Clinton has exceptional experience and skill, though that skill, at least in foreign affairs, is Satanic. There has never been a war, bombing, torture or wrecking of a country she has not supported and abetted. She is clearly a shill for the military machine.

Trump is quite capable of starting a nuclear war, which Clinton would never intentionally do -- bad for profits.

I suppose the military and the CIA would keep a close watch on President Trump, and take whatever measures were necessary to maintain their cozy relations to money and power -- they might want to rock the boat, but they certainly don't want to overturn it!
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There are plenty of "black sites" in which he would be a welcome addition. He might even get a taste of the waterboarding he so extols.


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Ah, Zeke, I was gettin' a little worried there. It looks like the Republican convention is NOT going to be contested but I won't call that bet in until the convention starts.


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Ah, Zeke, I was gettin' a little worried there. It looks like the Republican convention is NOT going to be contested but I won't call that bet in until the convention starts.
I didn't forget, ol' friend. Looks like you may be right. Let's see if they don't pull any last minute punches.


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Although a few diehards are burning their voter ID cards(how quaint) most seem to be falling in line with the "presumptive nominee".

But there could be some shenanigans at the convention.

There has even been some talk of running a third party candidate to deny Trump any chance of winning but to help the down ticket candidates in what is generally believed will be a blowout. The problem with this is that it would be incredibly expensive and there is no candidate available who could capture the hearts and minds of voters(assuming Republican voters have hearts and minds in the first place).
Some have even posited that Trump will successfully use the same tactics against Clinton that he used to destroy the Republican field. This also seems unlikely to me and that the harder he tries to insult and belittle Clinton the worse he's gonna look to the general electorate. The RCP average has Clinton 6.5 points ahead at this point and I suspect that even the Bernie Bros will come to their senses once they are faced with a real possibility of a Trump presidency.


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I don't see any real problem with the Bernie voters moving to Clinton. It will be a hold your nose and cast your ballot - but there is absolutely no possibility of any votes going to the Donald and I think - depending on how madam C plays the post convention campaign, Bernie can help energize the voters to show up in November - something I'm certain he WILL do.


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