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Trump was in Eugene last evening and had a packed rally. I went there in the afternoon to scope out the crowd but left after I had made my assessment. I did watch his Eugene stump speech on uTube.
It seems to me that his talking points are the result of compilations of surveys done by his staff on the issues his constuants are concerned about. He knows in advance what they want to hear and delivers it. “Make America great again”, build the beautiful wall, re-open the coal mines and the lumber mills, open up the forests to unrestricted logging, keep out Muslims and other undesirables, the media is full of stupid people, I’ll make the factories hum and put everyone (here) back to work in high paying blue collar jobs, insiders are unwelcome in politics, on and on.
He implies he will fix all of this with a wave of his hand. He doesn’t offer a smidgeon of detail on how he will accomplish any of this but rather just says “trust me”--I will make this happen. And his fans love him for it. Cut out the details and just deliver.
It’s astonishing--but they lap it up.
Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please.
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In a related vein: On Thursday evening, a 40-year-old man — with dark, curly hair, olive skin and an exotic foreign accent — boarded a plane. It was a regional jet making a short, uneventful hop from Philadelphia to nearby Syracuse.
Or so dozens of unsuspecting passengers thought.
Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please.
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THe implies he will fix all of this with a wave of his hand. He doesn’t offer a smidgeon of detail on how he will accomplish any of this but rather just says “trust me”--I will make this happen. And his fans love him for it. Cut out the details and just deliver. In the documentary that I linked, the narrator stated the very same about 1930s Germany - little detail about how Hilter would make Germany great again. We know the results of that effort.
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Thing is rick, Hillary’s policies and supposed future direction would have been considered Republican ideas 25 years ago. But due to AM radio, Fox, blogs, and other extremely right wing noise makers, the US body politic has been pulled very much to the right. So Hillary seems to be a rightist in her own right, by lefties.------Sorry.
But you already knew that.
Perhaps the true lefty- Bernie- could be elected to POTUS. I’m not counting on that--mainly due to his age. Hillary is six years his junior if memory serves. Also Bernie promises stuff that simply will not, nor cannot. get through today’s congress. Single payer, free college, Wall Street eviscerated, higher federal minimum wage etc. That sounds appealing to many- but simply won’t happen unless Santa comes to town. Or many more Democrats get elected to congress this November
Bernie has put a bug in the ear of many. Perhaps-down the road-some of his ideas might come to fruition. Assuming the US doesn’t come apart at the seams before then.......Then there is the coming of the robots to replace most labor. But that is a discussion for another thread.
Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please.
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....Assuming the US doesn’t come apart at the seams before then....... That is indeed a concern. The present situation is more than a little reminiscent of America in the 1850's or Germany in the 1920's -- except than there are a lot more guns around. .
Once, weapons were manufactured to fight wars; today, wars are manufactured to sell weapons
It is far easier to deceive folks than to convince them they are deceived
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Not a single former Republican President intends to attend the Republican Convention, not even the ones that are alive!
A well reasoned argument is like a diamond: impervious to corruption and crystal clear - and infinitely rarer.
Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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Not a single former Republican President intends to attend the Republican Convention, not even the ones that are alive! These fellas don't want to appear to be supporting HIlter 2.0. 
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Thing is rick, Hillary’s policies and supposed future direction would have been considered Republican ideas 25 years ago. But due to AM radio, Fox, blogs, and other extremely right wing noise makers, the US body politic has been pulled very much to the right. So Hillary seems to be a rightist in her own right, by lefties.------Sorry.
But you already knew that.
Perhaps the true lefty- Bernie- could be elected to POTUS. I’m not counting on that--mainly due to his age. Hillary is six years his junior if memory serves. Also Bernie promises stuff that simply will not, nor cannot. get through today’s congress. Single payer, free college, Wall Street eviscerated, higher federal minimum wage etc. That sounds appealing to many- but simply won’t happen unless Santa comes to town. Or many more Democrats get elected to congress this November
Bernie has put a bug in the ear of many. Perhaps-down the road-some of his ideas might come to fruition. Assuming the US doesn’t come apart at the seams before then.......Then there is the coming of the robots to replace most labor. But that is a discussion for another thread. Pretty much my thinking as well
Life is a banquet -- and most poor suckers are starving to death -- Auntie Mame
You are born naked and everything else is drag - RuPaul
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Speaking of that half term, failed vice presidential nominee, I hear she's supporting Paul Ryan's primary opponent in Wisconsin.
I bet he's absolutely thrilled at that. Her support is probably the kiss of death for his attempt to unseat Speaker Ryan.
Good coffee, good weed, and time on my hands...
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