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i think this was double edged

while he is certainly an excellent master of the media, the medias response was both based on that and the disbelief that anyone would support what he was saying

so in retrospect do you believe his support is based primarily on his media savvy or on what he is saying? I suspect it is the latter because it makes little sense for anyone to say, I support Mr Trump because he is successful, he is a media mogul, he is etc .... it does nothing for them but when he says keep the brown skin people out, keep that religion out, bitch slap foreign countries, etc .... I can believe that is something some folks find appealing


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Originally Posted by rporter314
so in a state of the nile ...ok

~50% of registered voters turn out for generals

in this primary cycle we have had >30M votes cast
Mr Trump has over 10M votes .... are you saying these folks are rational? or the only irrational potential voters?

apparently you concluded I said all voters were irrational .... well that would be on you

consider partisans .... do you think they are rational? strange that they could be intelligent and yet irrational simultaneously ... and then there are the unintelligent and irrational folks .... you think there are only 2 in America????

are there any studies on number of people with irrational political views??? don't know but i recommend watching any news show and you can see spokespeople saying irrational things .... or better listen to callers on talk shows .... wow

while certainly not random and so not mathematically valid, it does provide a sample of what exists in the real world .... lots of folks who make political decisions based on beliefs and the nile

Proof?? Your ramblings and assumptions are meaningless. You think the election is tomorrow?
As for your 10m votes - IT IS A PRIMARY NOT A GENERAL ELECTION. Surely you appreciate the difference.
You obviously think a majority of voters are irrational, otherwise, how could Trump win?
Your prediction is not a prediction. It is the result of bias, which is the enemy of rational thought.
Your evidence is anecdotal at best (and that is a generous assumption). Again, it is meaningless.
You have provided no logic (mathematical or otherwise) to support your prediction. Hence, the bias.


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Donald Trump won the Republican primary because the Republican Party is broken. Years of disdain—for moderation, for compromise, for governance, expertise, and conventional qualifications—have merged with long-exploited currents of bigotry to produce an electorate primed for a man like Donald Trump. Republicans put a Trump-like figure on the 2008 presidential ticket, backed Trump-like figures in the 2012 primaries, and even solicited Trump himself for an endorsement that same year. It was only a matter of time before Republican voters clamored for the real deal.

from: Trump’s Strategy Is Backfiring

Interesting story about Trump's "any publicity is good publicity" strategy versus real polling numbers.

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He made the real Donald Trump into @realdonaldtrump on Twitter

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Peter Costanzo is the man who helped turn Donald Trump into @RealDonaldTrump.

That, of course, is Trump’s Twitter account — a high-octane portal for the presumptive Republican presidential nominee to pump out insults, political attacks and self-promotion to more than 8 million followers. But the billionaire’s foray into the world of social media began with a much simpler purpose, yet one that’s still distinctively Trump: making money.

Costanzo crossed paths with Trump in 2009 when he was working as online marketing director for the publishing company putting out the businessman’s book, “Think Like a Champion.” Twitter was still in its infancy at the time. But Costanzo saw the 140-character-per-message platform as a new tool that the real estate mogul could use to boost sales and reach a broader audience.
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It woeked out well for him since 140 characters uses most of his vocabulary.


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North Korean state media offers support for ‘wise politician’ Donald Trump

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Donald Trump, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, has faced an unusual amount of criticism from foreign leaders — in large part because of his combative tone and unorthodox policy suggestions. This week, however, he found an unlikely international voice of support — in North Korean state media.

State outlet DPRK Today published an editorial Tuesday that called the business mogul a "wise politician" and said he could be good for North Korea. “There are many positive aspects to Trump’s ‘inflammatory policies,' ” the author of the article wrote, according to a translation from NK News. “Trump said he will not get involved in the war between the South and the North, isn’t this fortunate from North Korea’s perspective?”

The author of the editorial also dismissed Hillary Clinton, Trump's likely Democratic rival in the presidential race, calling her "dull" and saying that she hopes to use the "Iranian model to resolve nuclear issues on the Korean Peninsula."
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Well, if North Korea likes him than that settles it! We should all vote for Trump.

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“I’m not like other people.”
Actually, the United States Constitution says you are exactly like other people, because under the Constitution, we are all equal before the law. There is no Donald Trump Exception clause anywhere to be found. Even the Founding Fathers had to take their lumps from their critics.
Let’s not forget that this is the same Donald Trump who said in January, “I feel very strongly about our constitution. I’m proud of it. I love it.”
He loves it enough to say it doesn’t apply to him.
But we get where he is coming from – the political milieu of fascism.
Fascist dictators – even wannabe fascist dictators – cannot abide criticism. Trump: "I'm not like other people."- Freedom of the Press Must Go

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