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Originally Posted by NW Ponderer
...even when he loses, he blames others. He only accepts responsibility for successes.
What part of Art of the Deal do you not understand? smile , coffee


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I've always had the sneaking suspicion that he was in it for the notoriety and press coverage rather than actually being a candidate.

In essence that might mean that he was in it for the money.

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Donald Trump's entry into the Republican race for president was a business bonanza for the real estate mogul, with a new federal financial filing providing a snapshot of the billionaire's sprawling operations — from real estate to golf courses, and licensing deals to management businesses.

Trump's disclosure form filed last July showed his holdings brought in revenue of $362 million in 2014 and the first half of 2015, the campaign said in a statement, the Washington Post reports.

The form released Wednesday — which the campaign said shows revenue spiking to $557 million — covers a shorter period of time, from July 2015 until Monday.

But does he actually want to be president? That is a question that has plagued me from the start. Personally I doubt it. But I have a hard time navigating the twisted thought processes of Republicans. Just the idea that anyone actually wants him to be president is beyond me. It's like trying to place myself into the mind of a squid. Too alien, too far removed from my reality as a thinking rational being.


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The irony is, if Trump were president, many of the perks he is used to might be illegal for him to use. I haven't researched it in detail, but federal law prohibits, generally, "supplementation" of appropriated funds with private resources. It's called the "anti-deficiency act". As a government official, also, he would be required to give up control of Trump enterprises to avoid conflicts of interest. CRS Report for Congress: The Use of Blind Trusts By Federal Officials
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For elected federal officials, that is, Members of Congress, the President and Vice President, public financial disclosure and the attendant publicity is the principal method of conflict of interest regulation, as such constitutional officers are not required by statute to disqualify or recuse themselves from the performance of their constitutional duties.
Just ask Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld how that felt. Considering how adverse he is about disclosing his tax returns, how will he react to having to disclose all of his finances? (Especially since he routinely lies about their value -inflating or deflating them- depending on who is asking.)


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the least of his problems

and he is a very special person .... maybe above the law


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Save America - Lock Trump Up!!!!

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Originally Posted by Greger
But does he actually want to be president? That is a question that has plagued me from the start. Personally I doubt it. But I have a hard time navigating the twisted thought processes of Republicans. Just the idea that anyone actually wants him to be president is beyond me. It's like trying to place myself into the mind of a squid. Too alien, too far removed from my reality as a thinking rational being.

I'm with ya on this one. I truly believe that there is going to be some sudden illness, or other excuse, for him not to be the nominee. If in fact he is, the Republicans have sealed their own fate. The attack on him, and by extension on the entire Republican platform (if indeed there is such a thing) will be nuclear. I can't imagine that they don't see this.


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The safest thing for a none-race Republican Senator or Governor might be to be very very quiet until this whole fiasco is over, Don't endorse. Don't say anything at all to the press. Your career might survive.

Other Republican politicians don't have that luxury, since they need to run for reelection in November on the "death ballot" with Trump.

Oh well, Republicans are happier being the Minority Party in Congress anyway. Then they can fume about stuff without having to offer any solutions.

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Actually, if he had to let somebody else run his business ventures for 4 or 8 years it might be a lot better for him financially. He is actually a spectacularly bad businessman. For all his claims about "greatness", if he had put his inherited hundred million in the S&P 500 and just stayed home, he would have made more than he has now. And he wouldn't have ripped off countless investors with his four bankruptcies. Or created the Trump U scam.

I am starting to believe that he really does not want to win: We might be seeing a The Producers remake here. (He does better financially if he loses.) He really seems to have done everything short of bursting into "Springtime For Hitler" at his public appearances. Attacking the judge in his current trial seems to be the ultimate act: He could actually be in jail for contempt during the election!

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Originally Posted by pondering_it_all
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I am starting to believe that he really does not want to win: We might be seeing a The Producers remake here. (He does better financially if he loses.) He really seems to have done everything short of bursting into "Springtime For Hitler" at his public appearances.
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I can actually see it happening ROTFMOL


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Just got back from early voting, with my and my wife's California ballots. We live in an oddball district that only has mail-in or drop-off voting, no polling places. So we mail them in or drop them off at the library.

Things are going to be tough for the Independents who want to vote for Sanders: Lots of Californians think they are registered as independents, but are actually registered as Independent Party. (The NeoNazis!) They can't vote for Sanders, because the Democratic Party does not want the White Supremacists voting in their primary..

People who are registered as "No Preference" can request a Democratic Party ballot at the polls (or by mail several days ago) and vote for Sanders. But of course, they have to know to do that.

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Originally Posted by Ezekiel
Originally Posted by pondering_it_all
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I am starting to believe that he really does not want to win: We might be seeing a The Producers remake here. (He does better financially if he loses.) He really seems to have done everything short of bursting into "Springtime For Hitler" at his public appearances.
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I can actually see it happening ROTFMOL
I thought this from the beginning, just a ploy


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