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In a move sure to infuriate Sanders acolytes, NBC and AP have declared Clinton the presumptive Democratic nominee: Hillary Clinton Makes History - ahead of today's New Jersey and California contests. These announcements depend on superdelegates, but New Jersey and California would put her over the top with pledged delegates anyway. Hillary Clinton Will Be Nominated Because More Democrats Are Voting For Her.
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On Tuesday, Clinton will almost certainly clinch majorities of elected delegates and the popular vote. Suppose that Sanders, who currently trails Clinton by a narrow 5 percentage points in our California polling average, were to win the state by 20 percentage points instead. Even in that case, Sanders would still trail Clinton nationally by almost 200 elected delegates and about 2 million votes, depending on turnout in California.

In fact, Clinton can still win an elected delegate majority provided that she wins just 215 of the remaining 714 pledged delegates available on Tuesday and in the District of Columbia’s primary next week, or 30 percent.


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Senate 2016: The Democrats Strike Back

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It may come as a shock given all the attention being paid to the presidential race this year, but the president isn’t all-powerful. In fact, the U.S. Congress is supposed to be a coequal branch of the federal government. From voting on important legislation to confirming Cabinet appointees and federal judges, the Senate matters.

Right now, Republicans hold 54 seats to the Democrats’ 46 (including two independents who caucus with the Democrats). The Democrats have a favorable map in 2016[.]

Senate control could be crucial to a Democratic president, especially with unfilled judicial seats and cabinet posts. I personally think Republicans have shot themselves in the foot with their stance on Garland. Eight is not enough. -WaPo editorial board.
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Mr. McConnell’s admission that Mr. Garland is “well-qualified” should end the discussion. The president gets to nominate; the Senate gets to object in extraordinary circumstances, but has an obligation to confirm if nominees are, as in this case, obviously qualified and within the mainstream of judicial thinking. No other arrangement can keep the system working. But the majority leader obviously has other considerations in mind.
The board also stated, "Mr. McConnell’s claims do not pass the laugh test — unless by “worst,” he means “most-qualified” and therefore most difficult plausibly to reject."

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Originally Posted by NW Ponderer
In a move sure to infuriate Sanders acolytes, NBC and AP have declared Clinton the presumptive Democratic nominee: Hillary Clinton Makes History - ahead of today's New Jersey and California contests. These announcements depend on superdelegates, but New Jersey and California would put her over the top with pledged delegates anyway. Hillary Clinton Will Be Nominated Because More Democrats Are Voting For Her.
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On Tuesday, Clinton will almost certainly clinch majorities of elected delegates and the popular vote. Suppose that Sanders, who currently trails Clinton by a narrow 5 percentage points in our California polling average, were to win the state by 20 percentage points instead. Even in that case, Sanders would still trail Clinton nationally by almost 200 elected delegates and about 2 million votes, depending on turnout in California.

In fact, Clinton can still win an elected delegate majority provided that she wins just 215 of the remaining 714 pledged delegates available on Tuesday and in the District of Columbia’s primary next week, or 30 percent.

Not sure acolytes is the correct word. Supporters seems more appropriate. The fact that Clinton will get the nomination hardly comes as a surprise. It is, after all, what the oligarchs want. And they always get what they want.

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Major oligarch speaks:

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Oil tycoon and conservative mega-donor Charles Koch had kind words for both Bill and Hillary Clinton in an interview Sunday, saying there was an outside chance he could support her in November.

"We would have to believe her actions would be quite different than her rhetoric. Let me put it that way," he said on ABC's "This Week" Sunday. "But on some of the Republican candidates we would -- before we could support them, we'd have to believe their actions will be quite different than the rhetoric we've heard so far."
Earlier in the interview, Koch said Bill Clinton was better than George W. Bush on issues of economic growth and government spending but did not offer a full-throated endorsement of either Clinton.

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Life After Bernie NYTimes.

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While a few die-hard Sanders supporters have vowed that it’s “Bernie or bust,” a Quinnipiac University poll from late May found that three-quarters of Sanders supporters would vote for Mrs. Clinton if it came down to a Donald Trump-Hillary Clinton race in November. Alex Sheehan, 29, an digital media entrepreneur in New York, said he thought that when faced with the prospect of a Trump presidency, most Sanders supporters would end up voting for Mrs. Clinton — and “If not, we deserve the catastrophic failure that follows,” he said.
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"This is a movement,” [Minnie Wong] said. “It is not about Bernie Sanders. He’s a part of this movement.” And, according to Mr. Sanders’s most ardent supporters, that movement isn’t going anywhere.
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“It’s getting people to understand that this is more than just casting your ballot every four years or every two years,” Ms. Changa said. “It’s not about the presidential election. It’s whether we’re participating in mayoral elections, city councils, statehouses.”
I'm heartened to see so many Sanders supporters "get it."


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I find it hard to believe that anyone who really understood Bernie's platform could vote for Trump. They might abstain but not vote for him.
Ms. Clinton, WHEN elected, will owe a debt of gratitude to Sanders. I truly hope she will be willing to acknowledge and repay it.
That would help redeem her pusillanimous platform.


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Originally Posted by Ezekiel
Ms. Clinton, WHEN elected, will owe a debt of gratitude to Sanders. I truly hope she will be willing to acknowledge and repay it.



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Originally Posted by NW Ponderer
In a move sure to infuriate Sanders acolytes, NBC and AP have declared Clinton the presumptive Democratic nominee: Hillary Clinton Makes History - ahead of today's New Jersey and California contests.
What these two organizations did was total bullsh!t!!! mad

I was a kid when Reagan was deemed the winner in 1980 and I remember it was only 5 pm and the West Coast had not finished voting.


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Originally Posted by Ezekiel
Major oligarch speaks:

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Oil tycoon and conservative mega-donor Charles Koch had kind words for both Bill and Hillary Clinton in an interview Sunday, saying there was an outside chance he could support her in November.

"We would have to believe her actions would be quite different than her rhetoric. Let me put it that way," he said on ABC's "This Week" Sunday. "But on some of the Republican candidates we would -- before we could support them, we'd have to believe their actions will be quite different than the rhetoric we've heard so far."
Earlier in the interview, Koch said Bill Clinton was better than George W. Bush on issues of economic growth and government spending but did not offer a full-throated endorsement of either Clinton.

CNN
I could see how the Koch Bros would support a Center-Right Democrat. Hmm


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