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The "now cast" from FiveThirtyEight has it 86% for Clinton, 14% for Trump. I don't think that is safe enough. We have 3 months to go. I'd like to see it at 98% by the end of the Olympics. I agree with the President. Trump is simply unfit.
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Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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The "now cast" from FiveThirtyEight has it 86% for Clinton, 14% for Trump. I don't think that is safe enough. We have 3 months to go. I'd like to see it at 98% by the end of the Olympics. I agree with the President. Trump is simply unfit. Even the "polls only" have Clinton at 68% and Trump at 32%. That is a pretty wide lead (more than double). In probability that is extremely significant. Her numbers have always been better than his. As I said - better to let the dust settle and the volatility die down. I think by late September we'll be closer to a reliable forecast.
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Is it just my impression or is the Donald doing everything he can to lose this election? Meg Whitman, Calling Donald Trump a ‘Demagogue,’ Will Support Hillary Clinton for President NY Times Trump refuses to endorse Paul Ryan in GOP primary: ‘I’m just not quite there yet’ WaPo Trump attacks mothers and babies too... “Actually, I was only kidding: You can get the baby out of here,” he said when the child continued to cry. “I think she really believed me that I love having a baby crying while I’m speaking. That’s okay. People don’t understand, that’s okay.”
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From the Wall Street Journal: CEO Amy Dacey, communications director Luis Miranda and Chief Financial Officer Brad Marshall will be leaving the DNC, the committee said Tuesday. Their departures follow on the heels of Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz, who resigned last month after hacked emails that appeared to show staffers at the DNC conspiring against Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders in the late days of his Democratic primary race against Hillary Clinton. I wonder why the NY Times and Washington Post are not so anxious to talk about this. But the right, of course, is. The self-ordained liberals refuse to own up to their own cock-ups. So, instead of owning and thus, defusing the situation, they close their eyes and chant "There's no place like home." This gives the right the fodder they need to attack. What ever happened to common sense? 
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What ever happened to common sense? <sheepishly> never existed in politics?
ignorance is the enemy
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Clearing brush takes time. You know, of course, that this has been blown completely out of proportion. There was no "conspiracy". There was water cooler talk via email. Now, THAT is unprofessional, but, as I've said before, there is no smoking gun, and I've asked before for someone to provide it (but it isn't there). What is there is bad headlines and conspiracy theories. We, the sheep, have been doing Putin's work for him.
A well reasoned argument is like a diamond: impervious to corruption and crystal clear - and infinitely rarer.
Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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Clearing brush takes time. You know, of course, that this has been blown completely out of proportion. There was no "conspiracy". There was water cooler talk via email. Now, THAT is unprofessional, but, as I've said before, there is no smoking gun, and I've asked before for someone to provide it (but it isn't there). What is there is bad headlines and conspiracy theories. We, the sheep, have been doing Putin's work for him. Talk about Da Nile.  The emails speak for themselves as do the resulting resignations - or did you think that was just happenstance? Conspiracy theories such as your absurd (and frankly incomprehensible) paranoia about Putin? C'mon - take off the blinders and smell the shyte. Putin is not the issue. Trump is a proven train wreck and whatever his ties to Putin, they are further proof of what we already know right here. This is about the party that we are electing. If they don't get their act together it will only get worse.
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Zeke, I've asked before, and it has never been provided. In 19,000 plus emails and a dozen recordings there are maybe 12 that contain "questionable" threads, and only one (that I've seen) that expressed an active sentiment. Opinions were expressed, disparaging remarks were made (as I said, water-cooler comments), but there is NO evidence of an active effort. At least, none that has been provided. Please, feel free to provide evidence. I've read the press, I know that heads are rolling, but the problem, as always, is overreaction - by Bernie-bots, by the press, by Trump, etc.
A well reasoned argument is like a diamond: impervious to corruption and crystal clear - and infinitely rarer.
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Zeke, I've asked before, and it has never been provided. In 19,000 plus emails and a dozen recordings there are maybe 12 that contain "questionable" threads, and only one (that I've seen) that expressed an active sentiment. Opinions were expressed, disparaging remarks were made (as I said, water-cooler comments), but there is NO evidence of an active effort. At least, none that has been provided. Please, feel free to provide evidence. I've read the press, I know that heads are rolling, but the problem, as always, is overreaction - by Bernie-bots, by the press, by Trump, etc. You are downplaying the fact that these were not office drones expressing opinions but people at the top of the food chain looking to discredit a candidate in their own party. If that isn't enough then you are really trying to close your eyes to what was going on. There are plenty more emails. We don't know what is in them. But it doesn't matter. The fact that they thought to discredit Sanders is enough to show bias. Or do you honestly think that they were going to treat him as fairly as they did Hillary? I think 91% of Bernie's supporters are showing remarkable restraint with the DNC - they know what is at stake and are acting accordingly. What remains to be seen, as I've repeated ad nauseam, is how the Dems will treat the people who are voting for Hillary in November. I have reservations about that, but we shall see.
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Again... smoke and mirrors. Where's the evidence my friend? Where is there ANY evidence that anyone ACTIVELY tried to prevent Sanders from winning? You can make all the accusations you want, but that doesn't make them real, any more than Donald Trump's. OF COURSE the "establishment" preferred Clinton, who has been a loyal soldier for decades, to someone who became a "Democrat" only for the race. That is water-cooler talk. Once again, provide me with ANY email that shows that anyone actively tried to interfere with Sanders' campaign. Seriously. I haven't found one. Show me the money.
A well reasoned argument is like a diamond: impervious to corruption and crystal clear - and infinitely rarer.
Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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