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Looks like the Trumptanic has it an iceberg.  ![[Linked Image from uploads.disquscdn.com]](https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c0922b4f5c492b3ab5253e59b1cb231a9347ceefb52ec1212c79a3192164fa94.png) Clinton surges to big lead in McClatchy-Marist pollAmong poll respondents, Clinton was seen more often as a potential president. Fifty-three percent said they would find her acceptable; 39 percent felt that way about Trump. Francis Duffy, 76, an Upper Darby, Pennsylvania, Republican, said she was voting for Clinton because she found Trump to be scary. “I just don’t feel that Donald Trump is qualified. I think he’s a loose cannon,” she said. Link No wonder the RNC is looking at a backup plan.  ...and of course, if Trump doesn't win - the election is rigged. Yeah...let's go with that - it couldn't actually be that most Americans think that Trump is an idiot. 
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Trumps poll numbers have tanked nationally and in the key battlegrounds. It is still 3 months away from the election and convention bounce fades to kick in.
Nate Silver suggests that we should be wary of polls with such a lead now, if they still show it in 3 weeks then it will be far more predictive of the outcome.
Is there precedent for a bounceback to a competitive race? What would trump have to do to claw his way back to the polls?
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What would trump have to do to claw his way back to the polls? Not be Trump?
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Is there precedent for a bounceback to a competitive race? What would trump have to do to claw his way back to the polls? I was just looking at Silver's latest projections, which just ticked up again for Clinton (remarkable at this point because she's approaching the ceiling) and thought the reason has little to do with Clinton, and a lot to do with Trump. One means of regaining strength in the polls is to have your opponent suffer a setback, which is still a possibility for Clinton. But the fact is, Trump is losing ground on his own merits, not because Clinton is performing better. I think that indicates a more difficult prospect for Trump to recover even with the help of a Clinton setback.
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Is there precedent for a bounceback to a competitive race? What would trump have to do to claw his way back to the polls? Some of my friends are worried that he's going to attempt to fake an assassination attempt and then try to "rally his fellow Americans" around him in patriotic fervor. Most think he will try to pull this off and blame either Bernie-ites or Clintonians, while some others think he will blame Muslims. I don't know if I am ready to buy into such a theory but I would not put it past him.
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Is there precedent for a bounceback to a competitive race? What would trump have to do to claw his way back to the polls? Some of my friends are worried that he's going to attempt to fake an assassination attempt and then try to "rally his fellow Americans" around him in patriotic fervor. Most think he will try to pull this off and blame either Bernie-ites or Clintonians, while some others think he will blame Muslims. I don't know if I am ready to buy into such a theory but I would not put it past him. As long as he gets the Gang that couldn't Shoot Straight for the plot, I'm good.
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Lifelong Texas Republican Quits GOP With Scathing Must-Read Letter wow I will not contribute my name, my work, or my character to an utterly indefensible cause. No sensible adult demands moral purity from a political party, but conscience is meaningless without constraints. A party willing to lend its collective capital to Donald Trump has entered a compromise beyond any credible threshold of legitimacy. There is no redemption in being one of the “good Nazis.”
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Great find!! Unbelievable!!!!
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Yay!!!!! Schlacky is in da House. Whoop...whoop. 
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...from Schlacky's link: “The Iraq War, the financial meltdown, the utter failure of supply-side theory, climate denial, and our strange pursuit of theocratic legislation have all been troubling. A Republican wrote this?!? Wow! This is the first time I have ever seen a Republican being honest and owning up to the mess that the Republican party has caused America.
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