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PS: You are doing a bangup job of proving the horseshoe theory.
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This campaign season is a college professor's gold strike. They have enough material that will fill their syllabuses for an entire term. Heck, I'll will go as far as to suggest that Trump will be a political science topic all on its own.  The only way Trump would get a whole chapter is if he wins. So its hopefully a punctuation mark. The period that marks the end of the GOP Southern Strategy 1964-2016. Not the end of the Republican party, but the end of this version of the GOPWow, good call! Spot on, mate.
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In the mathematics of chaos theory, a horseshoe map is any member of a class of chaotic maps of the square into itself. It is a core example in the study of dynamical systems. The map was introduced by Stephen Smale while studying the behavior of the orbits of the van der Pol oscillator. The action of the map is defined geometrically by squishing the square, then stretching the result into a long strip, and finally folding the strip into the shape of a horseshoe.
Most points eventually leave the square under the action of the map. They go to the side caps where they will, under iteration, converge to a fixed point in one of the caps. The points that remain in the square under repeated iteration form a fractal set and are part of the invariant set of the map. Or maybe mixing physics with politics is a dead end right from the start. We are not particles, we are people.
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Just wanted to drop in and put into the mix that labels always divide, that is their purpose, and we are all humans in essence and reality.
Continue ...... Nevertheless while I grant you everything, quantifying behavioral tendencies is the standard method of classification. People who like hunting do not generally go to vegan restaurants.
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This requires more than just a general rehash about Clinton's political overtures but rather, it asks that you supply something that spotlights her as being against Ali's activism specifically.
Now, if you're focusing exclusively on his early activities with Elijah Muhammed I would be forced to remind you that he soundly rejected NOI shortly after the death of Malcolm X, who died BECAUSE HE rejected NOI as well.
In fact, Ali said that not having reconciled with Malcolm X after his epiphany was one of his greatest regrets.
Ali and X had very complicated political evolutions which defy the broad brush.
I am forced to assume you are referencing The New Black Panther Party. If not, and you are instead referencing the original group, then it means you don't know a lot about the original Black Panthers or their activism, none of which would be considered corporate at all. Nor would appropriating their symbolism be considered corporate. Did you actually read the post?  1) I was referring to BILL CLINTON (you know the guy who read the eulogy)  Nothing to do with NOI - ALI'S CIVIL RIGHTS AND ECONOMIC JUSTICE ADVOCACY that does not jive with Bill Clinton's Neo liberal policy. Missed my point entirely. 2) Again - my point was BEYONCE's co-opting of the ORIGINAL Panthers at the super-bowl was corporate, not the Panthers themselves, of which I was a member! Yes, appropriating the symbols of the movement without understanding it smacks of corporatism. Please read with care. So, why a failed liberal? Don't get it. I read it carefully, and if you read Baraka's screeds, then you know that he has turned it into a help wanted poster for his ridiculous campaign, so I sneer at his attempt to turn Bubba into an imperialist enemy of blackdom just because he doesn't jive with Far Left tropes. I know you love Jill Stein and I know you're considerably farther left than I am but please consider that Stein is already pretty far left as it is and instead of choosing a moderating influence, she went farther out on the fringe. If he doesn't seem fringe to you, then I guess we have to agree to disagree on that one. As for Beyonce, you can call it corporate appropriation of Panther symbols if you want or you can call it Beyonce paying homage, whatever suits your fancy or your agenda. I wager most people, most who weren't far right anyway, took it as net positive. Leave it to you to turn it into a negative. Some people are offended BY ABSOLUTELY EVERY. THING. Apparently again you didn't read my post. 1) I don't like Jill Stein- never said I did. 2) I called the guy crazy - so clearly I don't support him or her. 3) Fringe is what exactly? Everything that doesn't suit you? 4) I'm not offended by anything except ignorance. 5) Bill is a neo liberal per his policies - not opinion. Do the research. 6) Beyonce is someone who doesn't understand what the panthers were about.
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In the mathematics of chaos theory, a horseshoe map is any member of a class of chaotic maps of the square into itself. It is a core example in the study of dynamical systems. The map was introduced by Stephen Smale while studying the behavior of the orbits of the van der Pol oscillator. The action of the map is defined geometrically by squishing the square, then stretching the result into a long strip, and finally folding the strip into the shape of a horseshoe.
Most points eventually leave the square under the action of the map. They go to the side caps where they will, under iteration, converge to a fixed point in one of the caps. The points that remain in the square under repeated iteration form a fractal set and are part of the invariant set of the map. Or maybe mixing physics with politics is a dead end right from the start. We are not particles, we are people. In case I need remind you - people are particles  And the theorem is from topology - pure mathematics - not physics.
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PS: You are doing a bangup job of proving the horseshoe theory. No such theory, dear fellow. It is balderdash. Unadulterated nonsense. 
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What is it with being a liberal? Generalization is dangerous and leads to bigotry - a hallmark of fascism.
People believe what they believe and that is rarely ever black and white.
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You asked for examples of failed liberals.
If you watch each of the clips above, you will see liberals demanding censorship of dissent. That is grounds for revoking their "LIBERAL CARD".
If you are demanding "safe space", if you are demanding vengeance for "being offended" or "being triggered", you are intolerant and therefore a failed liberal.
Tolerance is the definition of liberalism. Liberals are supposed to have open minds.
I am actually NOT generalizing at all, I am focusing on specific types, that is the opposite of generalization.
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