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I'm gonna make believe I didn't read that.
He was a candidate of the Democratic Party and deserved fair treatment. All else is discrimination and just plain wrong .
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He was a Socialist until he decided to run. Only then did he decide to "become" a Democrat. Now that the primaries are over, he has gone back to being a Socialist. I'm sorry that your politics prevents you from admitting this. And the DNC IS NOT OBLIGATED to non-discrimination! They can discriminate against in-name-only Democrats all they want.
You seem to be confusing them with being part of the government and thus obligated to non-discrimination. They have no such obligation.
If Bernie wanted the full support of his Party then he should have run as a Socialist Party candidate. That certainly would have been a lot more honest than trying to hijack the Democratic Party.
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Nonsense. That's all I can say. I'm sorry you think that.  BTW they did allow him to run, n'est pas 
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I wonder if the same standard is applicable to Don Trump, who is a "Republican" in label only... at least according to the Republican cognoscenti.
A well reasoned argument is like a diamond: impervious to corruption and crystal clear - and infinitely rarer.
Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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Yes, I think Trump did the same thing, but the difference is he won. If Sanders had won enough votes I think he would be the Democratic candidate, no matter how little officials of the DNC or old Party members with an office that gave them superdelegate status felt about him.
I agree that the use of superdelegates is not perfectly democratic, but the Parties are not government agencies with an obligation to everybody's ideas about fairness. Sanders knew about the superdelegates relationship with Clinton going in. That's exactly why Parties have mechanisms like that, so they will resist hijacking from outsiders.
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So then, the RNC should have detonated his candidacy? 
"The liberals can understand everything but people who don't understand them."
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Some of them certainly tried. Maybe they should have tried harder. In their case, I think it shows that they care more about winning then they care about being Republicans, and this is exactly what has been wrong about the Party for years.
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Thing is- they can't seem to make it happen.
"The liberals can understand everything but people who don't understand them."
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He was a Socialist until he decided to run. Only then did he decide to "become" a Democrat. Now that the primaries are over, he has gone back to being a Socialist. I'm sorry that your politics prevents you from admitting this. And the DNC IS NOT OBLIGATED to non-discrimination! They can discriminate against in-name-only Democrats all they want.
You seem to be confusing them with being part of the government and thus obligated to non-discrimination. They have no such obligation.
If Bernie wanted the full support of his Party then he should have run as a Socialist Party candidate. That certainly would have been a lot more honest than trying to hijack the Democratic Party. I can admit to Bernie's being allowed in the democratic primary but not having to be treated fairly by the DNC, PIA, if you can admit to the DNC being primarily a club in which they get to choose the winner beforehand. Being a Democrat and going to the effort of showing up to vote in it's primary is only useful insofar as I vote for the DNC's choice. Fair?
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the DNC being primarily a club in which they get to choose the winner beforehand Not at all. He did not get more votes in the primary and he did not get more superdelegate votes. If Bernie had received more votes than Hillary in either one it would be a different story, but he did not. So how can you claim that he was somehow cheated and the DNC always gets to pick the candidate? The truth is that he lost because more Democrats wanted Hillary, face it.
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