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Ezekiel #294109 10/14/16 02:14 PM
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Maybe they also want to not enrich him anymore than this campaign has already done?


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Fascism on the march toward cult of personality.
Idiocracy the DOCUMENTARY.
These are the people who concern trolled the bathroom issue claiming that trans* perverts would rape their precious children.
The irony of their Groping God choice for President is as thick as a brick.
They ARE deplorable. There's no other word that captures it so perfectly.

That's it folks, that is what we have allowed ourselves to vote into power, that is the country we have spent forty years tearing down and rebuilding in the "conservative" image, that's your American society.
That is what the rest of the world sees as a representative of our nation.
But don't forget!!! Killery is worse, right?????????


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But don't forget!!! Killery is worse, right?????????
That is the standard reply, but when asking for particulars you get nothing but vague mumblings about 'corruption', emails, and Bill.

Oh, and "Lock her up!!" For what crime, no one knows.


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Well, the latest Clinton Derangement Syndrome symptom seems to be the emails. You know, for doing what Colin Powell did, and using something other than the State Department server. (Although he used AOL, that extremely high security latest technology system. NOT!)

Although why on earth they think an email server with thousands of users getting phished and viruses and keyloggers and kept secure by federal government IT employees would be safer than a server just used by one user with a private consultant running security. I thought government employees could do nothing right and privatization was the Republican answer to everything?

And while she had no security break-ins, we should prosecute her when several Congressmen purposefully leaked info from security briefings for partisan reasons. But they are Republicans so it must be okay.

I think the Obama administration should announce they are going to charge everybody who purposefully leaked secret info after signing a classified info letter. That would be good for a few laughs!

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Originally Posted by Jeffery J. Haas
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Fascism on the march toward cult of personality.
Idiocracy the DOCUMENTARY.
These are the people who concern trolled the bathroom issue claiming that trans* perverts would rape their precious children.
The irony of their Groping God choice for President is as thick as a brick.
They ARE deplorable. There's no other word that captures it so perfectly.

That's it folks, that is what we have allowed ourselves to vote into power, that is the country we have spent forty years tearing down and rebuilding in the "conservative" image, that's your American society.
That is what the rest of the world sees as a representative of our nation.
But don't forget!!! Killery is worse, right?????????
I try very hard to avoid tu quoque. I see it as a kindergarten argument. Unfortunately, I am sometimes guilty of it and so are some on the Left (talk about a self-destructive statement grin ):

The vast majority of Trump supporters I've run into are good and thoughtful people who I think are mistaken. All candidates have their share of extremist supporters, and that includes Hillary.

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All candidates have their share of extremist supporters

Trump seems to have accumulated a very large percentage of deplorables of one stripe or another, they tend to be very loud, and he does nothing to disavow their support.

The net result is the appearance that all his supporters are deplorable. That is unfortunate because, like you, I am sure that is not so. Even Hillary gave his supporters the chance to include themselves in the non-deplorable half.

Trump could do something, anything, to help these people see themselves as non-deplorable. But that's not Trump.

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The vast majority of Trump supporters I've run into are good and thoughtful people who I think are mistaken.
Same here. Decent Christian folks I've known since childhood. Good people who have been Republicans all their lives and who can't even fathom voting for anyone but the candidate with the R beside his name. But perhaps, Golem, we don't run in the same circles as the true "deplorables". The genuine racists and bigots, the homophobes, the Islamaphobes, the neo-nazis, and the gun toting groundstanders just itching for the chance to shoot someone. I don't think there are any radical lefties who even hold a candle to the crowds who show up to Trump's rallies. The hatred there is palpable, the violence barely controlled. This is pretty scary stuff and if those people are really good and thoughtful they'd be running as fast as they can from Donald Trump.


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My friend/neighbor admitted that he is no longer voting for Trump. He won't vote for Hillary, but can't vote for Trump. I suggested Gary Johnson to him, but he thinks he's an idiot (although he's closest to his views). He said he's just not going to vote.


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