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Issa certainly has spent a lot of money on signs. I live just a block outside of his district but when we drive into town you can hardly spit without hitting one. Like 10 per corner! I keep wanting to match his sign color and size with my own: sign to put up right below his. Like Trump supporters don't care about all of the misdeeds Don The Con has done, Issa supporters don't care that signs strongly point to Issa being an arsonist and insurance scammer.
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how fast can the trend lines converge to make this a toss-up? (I think that was my prediction in July or early August)
did the Comey bomb facilitate the convergence?
apparently there are republicans who want to PRE -impeach, EX POST FACTO impeach Sec Clinton ... simply amazing
ignorance is the enemy
without equality there is no liberty
Save America - Lock Trump Up!!!!
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Monday there will be new issues, and the email issue will fade. It is becoming more apparent that the letter was inappropriate when even Trump supporters agree it is suspect. Trump Supporter Jeanine Pirro Defends Hillary Clinton Over FBI Announcement.
A well reasoned argument is like a diamond: impervious to corruption and crystal clear - and infinitely rarer.
Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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It turns out that pro-Russia agent, Paul Manafort, manipulated Trump into selecting Pence. Trump really wanted Christie as VP. No wonder Putin wants Trump to win - Don The Con is easily manipulated.
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Of course Putin prefers Trump: He is a child and easily distracted by a few compliments. A Trump election would be a major coup for Putin. Basically, he could get away with anything.
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Of course Putin prefers Trump: He is a child and easily distracted by a few complements. A Trump election would be a major coup for Putin. Basically, he could get away with anything. 
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Of course Putin prefers Trump: He is a child and easily distracted by a few compliments. A Trump election would be a major coup for Putin. Basically, he could get away with anything. Lest we forget, Putin did not create Trump. The U.S. did. And the Repubs have given him a platform. I'd be more concerned with that than with Putin.
"The liberals can understand everything but people who don't understand them."
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The 538 polls for Utah are pretty interesting. Trump and McMullin are almost neck-to-neck splitting the Republican vote. Hillary is just a few points behind.
But that doesn't reflect the fact that Mormon wives will tell pollsters they support their husband's choice, but cast their own secret ballot in the voting booth. Those good Mormon wives probably are horrified by Trump and his positions.
It will be interesting to see how this plays out in Utah. I bet Trump comes in third. But I won't predict who wins.
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This may end up getting is own thread, but the teaser headline got my attention: Don't blame voters for Trump, blame the stupid way we vote. -Slate How could a major party grant a guy like Donald Trump a puncher’s chance at the presidency? This fiasco of an outcome—landing Trump one step from the White House—might have been avoided with a simple change to the GOP’s nomination process. Don’t blame Trump’s ascent on economic anxiety, or racism, or the media. Blame it on the way we hold elections. This is a problem in so many ways. It is why parties have so much power; it is why our "Representatives" don't represent us; it is how a marginal human being can become a nominee. "Winner-take-all" skews elections and makes them unrepresentative. The rationale is to help States, not voters. The solution the author presents is "approval voting." In his excellent 2008 book Gaming the Vote, author William Poundstone explored the problems with our current voting system. “The plurality vote we use in America is mathematically the absolute worst way to vote,” Poundstone told me by phone when I spoke to him recently. Why? For one thing, Poundstone estimates that roughly 1 in 10 of our presidential elections has been swung by a “spoiler” candidate who alters the outcome. The example that lingers in recent memory is that 2000 campaign, in which Nader siphoned votes from Gore and very likely threw the election to Bush. But it’s happened many times before—in 1848, 1884, and 1912, to name a few. Allowing the second-most-popular candidate to win a three-way race is a “catastrophic error,” in Poundstone’s view. And it could easily be prevented by switching to a different voting system.
A well reasoned argument is like a diamond: impervious to corruption and crystal clear - and infinitely rarer.
Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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