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At the Scripp's ER screening tents yesterday, the nurses were going through protective gloves, masks with eye shields, and paper gowns like they were water. Seems like they did about 95% of their time putting on and taking off this gear and typing on their computers, versus about 5% of their time actually doing something with a patient. They need to streamline some of that stuff or they are going to get crushed.

Beautiful brand new ER though, if they let you inside. Very nice big TVs with free HBO and Showtime while you wait for hours for them to get around to discharging you.

Play this video every single time some Trump supporter whines about people criticizing Trump’s response to the pandemic.

https://twitter.com/kfile/status/1240131226268323842

This baby is unpatented - I’m planning to steal the design and market them through Costco.

Nobody is sure that those who have 'recovered' can get it again. Nobody knows if the 'recovered' can continue to pass on the virus either. The stuff not known is staggering!

I watched our dear leader, the Traitor Trump, this morning. I noticed that, still, nobody calls him on flat out lies. He spent a lot of time, this morning lying. The man is determined to lie - even when the truth is better! Three weeks ago he started promising millions of test kits. He continues with that now old canard with no break. At the same time he throws in things like its the Chinese Virus and did get called on that. He explained that it is the Chinese Virus and all their fault. Not once did anybody point out that he had over 2 weeks to start doing something and he didn't and isn't.

Weeks? The guy was told about this crisis TWO MONTHS AGO.

Trump’s response to the coronavirus epidemic:

January 22: “We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China. It’s going to be just fine.”
February 2: “We pretty much shut it down coming in from China.”
February 24: “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA… Stock Market starting to look very good to me!”
February 25: “CDC and my Administration are doing a GREAT job of handling Coronavirus.”
February 25: “I think that's a problem that’s going to go away… They have studied it. They know very much. In fact, we’re very close to a vaccine.”
February 26: “The 15 (cases in the US) within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero.”
February 26: “We're going very substantially down, not up.”
February 27: “One day it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.”
February 28: “We're ordering a lot of supplies. We're ordering a lot of, uh, elements that frankly we wouldn't be ordering unless it was something like this. But we're ordering a lot of different elements of medical.”
March 2: “You take a solid flu vaccine, you don't think that could have an impact, or much of an impact, on corona?”
March 2: “A lot of things are happening, a lot of very exciting things are happening and they’re happening very rapidly.”
March 4: “If we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better just by, you know, sitting around and even going to work — some of them go to work, but they get better.”
March 5: “I NEVER said people that are feeling sick should go to work.”
March 5: “The United States… has, as of now, only 129 cases… and 11 deaths. We are working very hard to keep these numbers as low as possible!”
March 6: “I think we’re doing a really good job in this country at keeping it down… a tremendous job at keeping it down.”
March 6: “Anybody right now, and yesterday, anybody that needs a test gets a test. They’re there. And the tests are beautiful…. the tests are all perfect like the letter was perfect. The transcription was perfect. Right? This was not as perfect as that but pretty good.”
March 6: “I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it… Every one of these doctors said, ‘How do you know so much about this?’ Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for president.”
March 6: “I don't need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasn't our fault.”
March 8: “We have a perfectly coordinated and fine tuned plan at the White House for our attack on CoronaVirus.”
March 9: “This blindsided the world.”
March 12: “When you lose 27,000 people a year [to the flu], nobody knew that – I didn’t know that.”
March 13: "telemedicine is a new thing of the not too distant past...we're not gonna talk about the rest of the world ...ummm, it's incredible what they're doing, this telehealth, Roche is driving the market up, because we don't need to test everyone, only those with certain symptoms, simply obsolete with comparison to...a tremendous amount has been learned..."

Feel free to add to/update

---And if you feel like thanking somebody, this lady is who you should start with:

Watch Katie Porter Relentlessly Grill CDC Chief Into Saying ‘Yes’ to Free COVID-19 Tests

The congresswoman would not take no for an answer, for the betterment of us all

xkcd

Here is a link that kinda interesting (I really like Vice News):
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/...uses-and-bacteria-why-isnt-it-everywhere

WOW~~!!

Nice, but not a significant path of infection. If every surface was covered in copper, that might help, but most transmission seems to be by droplets or even exhaled air. Cholera usually comes from contaminated drinking water, so just maybe those coppersmiths had water vessels made from copper! That could sterilize the water if it sits in the vessels for long enough. Maybe they even had cisterns made out of copper! You can do the same water trick with silver.

Interesting development: Some news of chloroquine and even quinine letting zinc into cells. (Without such help, zinc does not get in.) So you need both zinc ions outside the cell and one of these zinc-helpers present. Zinc inside the cell interferes with virus RNA replication. I assume it would not be 100% effective, or it would have been discovered a long time ago. Still, it might give your immune system time to mount an antibody response. News flash: They are using this in China.

Fierce Pharma

Chloroquine is an old, dirt cheap prescription drug for malaria. There is some talk about azithromycin killing Covid-19 as well. If this works, it could mean we never reach the point that we run out of ventilators.