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Got my 4-strain flu shot yesterday. Two A strains and two B strains, in a high-dose shot for seniors. Hardly felt it. It's going to be very bad if people get Covid and flu at the same time. And with all these morons running around without masks, flu is coming.

Saw a local presentation on YouTube today: ER workers ask people coming in to put on a mask (which is current state rules). Then people swear at them and want to fight. They should just ask them to step into a "treatment room" where they can wait for the police to come take them to jail. A few days in jail could work wonders in their attitude.

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I went shopping today. Everyone was wearing masks.


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Good Job, Florida!

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I just remembered which tester - China. What is interesting, I think, is that they have now been testing their vaccine for over three months. That means they started sometime back in June. I know they have tests going in both China (their army) and also in Brazil.

Then I found this:https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-08-24/coronavirus-vaccine-china-s-covid-front-runner-uses-brute-force-approach

It says that it started testing in July which tends to make me question my memory about the 3 month thing <sigh>

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Authoritarian countries in which the people serve the state, see drug or vaccine trials a bit different than democratic countries. They are trying to make sure the thing doesn't hurt the state by killing too many people. In some places like China, 10% mortality is actually a feature. So they run their Phase III trials by edict on some captive group in close proximity so their is a viral challenge. The army is perfect!

But note that the Chinese vaccine company says 7 months for their trial. The US is the only place on Earth that is going to try it for 3.5 months, because Trump does not give a rat's ass if people die.

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Trump does not give a rat's ass if people die.

Did we see tearful photos of him at his brother's funeral? No. Because he is a sociopath and it is impossible for him to give a f*ck about anything but himself.

Most importantly is that he has less than three months until the election and even if the vaccine doesn't work, he can claim it does and claim he has ended the pandemic single handedly.

Then he can easily win re-election.

Stock market is already reaching new record highs so the economy is once again booming thanks to his leadership!



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CDC leadership has now been subverted: They changed their website to say that not everybody exposed needs to be tested and redefines teachers who have been exposed as "essential workers" who should keep on teaching.

This was NEVER the definition of "essential worker": It meant somebody who should keep on working despite a general lockdown. NEVER somebody who had been exposed, who might spread the disease. These are all Trump's ignorant ideas, that he thinks are going to help him get reelected. But in reality, they will have the opposite effect by spreading the virus and killing more people.

It is true that everybody exposed doesn't need to be tested because some exposure is so complete (like married couples) that the spouse of a known Covid-19 patient, with symptoms, can be safely assumed to be infected. But that person has to go into quarantine, NOT PASS IT TO A BUNCH OF KIDS!

Some people at CDC need to be fired and lose their medical licenses. The Governor of California has already announced the State of California is going to ignore this lethal advice.

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As predicted by anybody with half a brain, getting students back to college campuses is proving to be a disaster. North Carolina State University went to all online classes on Monday, and now they have told most students to go home. Apparently they had a bunch of dorm and Greek House parties, and now they are swamped with Covid-19 cases. 325 positive tests in the last 6 days! 24 different clusters!

UNC at Chapel Hill has had similar results, with their student newspaper actually calling the administration's plan "a clusterf#ck".

University of Alabama has announced their total of over 500 cases!

If the plan is to give it to everybody in the US, as Trump has suggested, then it's working great.

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The plan from the start has been to do nothing until the virus runs its course and disappears.

That, and get as much money as possible into the hands of the wealthy during the pandemic/recession.


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Do you suppose Trump will contest his election loss if he is in the hospital on a ventilator, due to having contracted the Covid at his illegally venued superspreader nomination event?

Dr. Fauci: "What did you say, Mr. President?"

Trump: "(cough, cough) It's a hoax, it's all rigged... nobody knew........ (cough)"


You never change things by fighting the existing reality.
To change something, build a new model that makes the old model obsolete.
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