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Just received this this AM, interesting in that I thought the Response to COVID-19 would be the number one issue this election. It isn't, it's number 3. Below the economy and Terrorism/National Defense.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/321617...nt=morelink&utm_campaign=syndication

Looks like Dems beat the Repubs on nearly every measure. Meanwhile idiot Trump is Tweeting out to remember about Space Force and vote.

The fog of Covid is affecting his mind bigly.

The economy one is odd. Trump inherited Obama's economy due to the actions taken by Obama - and the Federal Reserve - in 2009 were pivotal to saving the U.S. economy and laying the groundwork for a great post recession economy - until Trump messed that up too.

If the economy were truly Trump's, it would be better than it is doing today because if he made the economy good before, he would have done it again. He hasn't done that in 9 months of Covid, because he didn't do it the first time.

The problem I have with some of these polls is that they don't break it down into those who rate the economy as number one because it's going good or those who rate the economy numbers as it is bad.

It's like gun control, they make gun control a high priority issue, but among those who rate it high are those who are for more control and those who rate it high because they are for much less control. Same for the economy, you don't know the amount of folks who think it's good and want to keep it that way or those who think it is bad and want a change.

We just know people care a lot about these issues.

They did the same thing with ACA: Lumped the folks who wanted single-payer in with the folks who wanted ACA gone, as "people opposed to ACA". I guess it's pretty easy to do the math and get a poll to favor anything you want.

If nobody cared about them they wouldn't be "issues".

If people agreed about them they wouldn't be problems.

Those that give him credit for the economy are slightly confused, based on Trump's history. He is, as I have said for years and have now been backed up by many talking heads, the worst businessman in the history of the nation and some even say the world! He has, basically, failed at virtually any and all things he has tried to do, for years. The economy, he did inherit from Obama, and that just kept on going in spite of his disasters like taxing imports and then claiming that the export nations were paying that tax which was yet another damned lie. He created a billion dollar bailout for farmers and they continue to go broke in spite of that.

Those that think he has been good for the economy would buy the Brooklyn Bridge if Trump offered it for sale. There is a phrase, "Ignorance is bliss" and, apparently there are many who base their lives on that one. The rest of the world continues to ban us from their nations, and look on in stunned amazement at our continuous decline whilst we think that the lying loser we have as leader is a shining example of American wonder and magnificence. We have a healthcare system which we pay more than two times the cost that other nations spend and get less than they do insofar as results are concerned. At least half the nation continues talking about "the best healthcare in the world". Talk about self delusion! We, basically, qualify as a nation embracing very close to complete mental breakdown (and, apparently, proud of it!)

China, on the other hand, is making a bid as the world's leader and just might pull it off if it offers their Covid-19 shots to the world after they inject their millions safely whilst Americans refuse shots from their own government due to distrust in THEIR own government!)
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Obama's corporate bailout and abandonment of workers created an economy that worked for the top 10% while everyone else struggled. It was a façade, Trump helped prop it up but the 'rona came along and kicked all the props out and it all came crashing down.

It was the "working class" who elected Trump...and who worship him still. All the millions of people who lost their jobs and homes while Obama bailed out banks and automakers. Obama might have saved the economy but he did nothing for most workers.

When the ACA became the law of the land, full time jobs ceased to exist. Workers had to have two, or even three jobs to make ends meet and none of them provided healthcare. Jobs were scarce right up until the end of the Obama years and wages stayed flat while corporate profits soared.

Once again we witnessed a predictable economic crash when a predictable pandemic struck...and a predictable bailout of corporations and soaring profits for the corporate class as workers struggle to survive.

Joe Biden panders to unions and workers but has deep ties to the Corporate Overlords...his administration is also pretty predictable.

...just as is the gold plating of the Harris turd as the chosen heir to the throne.

Don’t know if anyone follows Michael Moore’s ‘Rumble’ podcast but ep.116 was a white hot one straight outta Flynt. Really goes to the heart of the problem with Democrats and their party. Poor Mike. I’ve been an admirer of his work and felt ‘Roger and Me’ was his great American novel.
Listening to his guest and him vent their anger and frustration at the Biden campaign over its crapping on Detroit and Flynt by parading the endorsement of former Governor Schneider made me realize something. Mike hasn’t fully come to terms with the Democratic party’s decades long realignment. He Doesn’t want to understand that the party of his Union member father and uncles is now the party of Rockefeller.
That’s fine for most Liberals that have no real problems. For those in Flynt and the rest of the sacrifice zones thru out the country, it’s been a slow motion train wreck.
If Biden does blow it in Michigan, at least after listening to this episode, we’ll have some clues why.

Or we can always talk about Russia instead. Liberals will always have Putin.

Ep.116 F**k You Flynt!