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Violence anyone? "Americans Increasingly Believe Violence is Justified if the Other Side Wins" To the question of: How much do you feel it is justified for [your party] to use violence in advancing political goals? (Options: “Never” justified, “a little”, “a moderate amount”, “a lot” and “a great deal.”) 33% of Democrats and 36% of Republicans answered, yes, violence is justified. https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/10/01/political-violence-424157Interesting times we live in.
It's high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first instead of their political party. For way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.
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Violence anyone?
"Americans Increasingly Believe Violence is Justified if the Other Side Wins" Sounds like something the side with all of the guns says. 
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Believers in real democracy and real believers in anarchy
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ignorance is the enemy
without equality there is no liberty
Save America - Lock Trump Up!!!!
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I don't know. All I do know is the old political era of when both major parties knew that both wanted a secure, free and prosperous America, only the paths of getting there were different is long gone. This modern era of divisiveness, polarization, mega, ultra, high partisanship has replaced it. Now each party truly believes the other party is out to destroy America.
Perhaps it's all this negative personal attacks that has been taking place since at least the 1990's. Making the other side look like the devil reincarnated. Now the partisans of both sides really believe the other side is pure evil and it seems will do anything and everything to prevent the other side from winning or gaining power to include the use of violence. It's the times we live in I suppose.
Our elections aren't about substance anyone, not about ideas, possible solutions to our problems, about a vision of the future. It's 100% negative personal attacks. Then the party folks come to believe every single negative personal attack against the other guy, against the other party and hate begins to build. It's only reasonable violence will follow.
How much, I suppose we'll find out after the election.
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...Perhaps it's all this negative personal attacks that has been taking place since at least the 1990's... What happened in the 1990s that could have contributed to all of this? Oh yeah...Newt Gingrich. Then you had Karl Rove in the 2000s. Now Mitch McConnell in the 2010s-2020s 
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If you think only Republicans resort to the personal negative attacks, you're completely wrong.
It's high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first instead of their political party. For way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.
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If you think only Republicans resort to the personal negative attacks, you're completely wrong. I answered your question: ...Perhaps it's all this negative personal attacks that has been taking place since at least the 1990's... ...Perhaps it's all this negative personal attacks that has been taking place since at least the 1990's... What happened in the 1990s that could have contributed to all of this? Oh yeah...Newt Gingrich... You're welcome. 
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The NPR Electoral College Map for 2020 seems to be tracking Real Clear Politics recent polling. Even without the yellow "toss-ups," Joe is at 290. Only 270 needed to win the EC. Any yellow additions will only add to Trump's humiliating defeat. ![[Linked Image from uploads.disquscdn.com]](https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/66222992e39ba235a950e6946c97abe27fdfd6a242d7fca8c188424c40ff68ed.png)
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You never change things by fighting the existing reality.
To change something, build a new model that makes the old model obsolete.
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So as I wrote a list to contrast what VP Biden says about Mr Trump versus what Mr Trump says about VP Biden I see a completely different story.
So maybe I don't know what you mean by "personal negative attack"
Mr Trump routinely uses personal attacks against everyone who doesn't bow down to him. Now I know VP Biden said Mr Trump was a "clown". Yeah well I disagree with that. He should have said he was a buffoon ... o because he is actually a buffoon, so it is not a personal attack.
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