Capitol Hill Blue Forums Political Issues Politics In General Is it too soon to be talking 2020?

I really wasn't referring to individual attacking each other personally. During my Braves games, I got a ton of senate political ads for both races by all the candidates. Those ads were straight out of the septic tank. Raunchy, nasty, dirty, foul smelling, shitty and more. It made me not want to vote for any of the major party candidates, since all running are basically the scum of the earth, no the scum of the universe. Third party is always a choice.

I also seen some pretty nasty TV ads from both Trump and Biden, at least their campaigns. Georgia is in play this year, so we're getting a ton of these negative personal attack ads from all over the scope.

If one believed but a tenth of what is being said about all the candidates, one would never vote for a major party candidate, ever.

Of course you watch different tv than I do, so I have not seen these ads of which you speak. I see the Lincoln Project ads and Trump campaign ads. Of these the Trump campaign ads misrepresent the truth or the facts while the Lincoln ads are the words from the mouth of the babe.

For the local Texas crowd, all the ads I have seen (D and R) are issue oriented.

It appears Mr Trump likes calling Democrats Marxists or some such nonsense. I spent about 2 hours with a Trump supporter this afternoon who made some of the most outrageous claims about Democrats .... commies, socialists, anti-religion, baby killing, Clinton's spawn of satan etc. He was so full of disinformation, all of which would have been easy to rebut, especially the logical contradictions .... I mean can you imagine believing something is both true and false at same time?

Anyway the only thing I see is the constant barrage of lies coming from Mr Trump versus the occasional vagrant lie coming from VP Biden.

O yeah she is nasty nasty commie .... i wonder if that is code for being black????

I've seen darn few political ads on Trump and Biden. Almost all are on the senate races, both the regular and the special. Nasty doesn't describe the ads. The Trump and Biden ads, the very few I seen, have been tame and for the most part I'd say within bounds.

If I hadn't sent in my mail in ballot about a week and a half ago, I'd be voting third party in both senate races. None of they qualify according to the TV ads.

It's like both major parties are giving you a choice between Attila the Hun and Genghis Khan. Even those two come off looking like Mother Teresa vs what is being said about all the senate candidates.

Perhaps the difference is on the presidential ads, either Biden or Trump have to say at the end that they approved of this message. That isn't the case with our two senate races.

perotista, like the rest of us, you know that ads are propaganda. Why base any decision on anything an ad presents, do your research and decide off of that information. I have yet to see any US third party candidate that had any viability and I voted for Ross Perot back in the day.

As a note regarding thoughts on Mr Trump refusing to leave WH, we have the case of the Dir of Bureau of Land Management, Pendley, refusing to leave job as directed by the courts, saying Mr Trump supports him in his job.

If this is not eye opening for the possibilities of a Republican assault on our democracy, I don't know what is .... other than complete regime change.

I suspect there is a whole bevy of these ultra conservative Republicans (Rep Jordan, Gaetz, Meadows, Gohmert in fact most Texas rep's, Sen Johnson, Lee etc) who would welcome the destruction of our form of government and a replacement with a fascist one.

These guys believe they are above the law .... so saith the Congressional and Judicial Records.

I think you'd see at least a couple of positive ads from the candidates themselves. Like this is where I want to lead Georgia, this is my idea to solve these problems, this is what I want to do if elected. That's not the case. It's my opponent is the worst scumbag on the face of the earth. You vote for him, everyone in Georgia will face the firing squad or be placed in concentration camps. If any had said that, that would be tame for what they're saying about each other.

If political ads had to be given a rating, XXX would do nicely. You know all of it is down right lies, propaganda lies that would make Joseph Goebbels proud. In fact Goebbels wouldn't go that far with his NAZI propaganda lies. Goebbels would have more scruples. None of them deserve to be elected in my opinion.

And for a while, they'll get away with it.

And then they won't.

There's going to be a reckoning...of some sort...far be it from me to predict what it's liable to be.

The people will speak soon.

If there be gods...so will they too.

you must be writing about Mr Trump's ads. Apparently if VP Biden wins we will enter the {{{{{END TIMES}}}}}. Of course all those evangelical Christians should love that .... wait a sec ... how come they are not for VP Biden ... they have been pushing getting Israel ready ... are they just a bunch of hypocrites ... so why are they supporting Mr Trump????

I think it's like Saint Augustine's famous prayer: "Lord, make me chaste—but not yet." They will be ready to give up their worldly treasures and vices on their deathbeds. Remember: "The meek shall inherit the Earth, once it's not worth having."

270ToWin currently has Biden's base support at 290 electoral votes, with a likely ceiling of 335. The problem is that the States he is most likely to carry are not States that are likely to report results on election night. That gives Trump the opportunity to sow doubt in the days between election night and December, when the votes are officially tallied. They already have lawsuits going in most of the swing States, and many others, and have 3000 lawyers in their pocket ready to gum up the works.

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The real savior of the country could be Florida, if Biden wins it. Florida, as a result of 2000, has mechanism in place to count votes quickly. Biden is actually leading among seniors there, so it is possible that he pulls it out. That would make his victory nearly impossible to deny.

The fly in the ointment on election night is "exit polling". In a typical election year news agencies rely heavily on exit polling to "call" races. Unfortunately, with heavy early/absentee voting - where Biden leads by 2-1 margin - and Trump's same-day voter polling advantage - where Republicans are more likely to vote by a 2-1 margin - there is likely to be a genuine disconnect between exit polls and actual votes. That means a lot of States will not be "called" on election night. If that transpires, we are likely in a world of hurt.