Capitol Hill Blue Forums Political Issues Politics In General Is it too soon to be talking 2020?

I heard Brunhilde in the wings clearing her throat. She has entered the stage .... but it is not her time to sing.

I still feel it's a 50-50 despite the fact the first polling station to report has it Biden 5 ... Trump 0.

Totally agree.
Many aspects of 2020 remind me of 16’.

One other thought on the VA. This is a perception of mine and may be wrong but, so far, its been true. Every officer equal to, or over, colonel or commander (full bird) seem to automatically be gifted with the VA. I always thought that was interesting.

I never heard that about the VA. But I wouldn't doubt it.

I wonder if it is TOO LATE to be talking about 2024!!!!!!

I'd say too early. Biden will win although it's closer than I thought. I didn't expect Pennsylvania to go fairly big for Trump once it is called.

The senate is still 50-50 on which party controls it. With 23 Republicans this year defending their seats vs. 12 for the Democrats, the Democrats should have picked up the senate this year.The House is safe Democratic.

2022 will provide another excellent opportunity for the Democrats to take control of the senate if they don't do so this year. There's 22 Republicans up for reelection in 2022 vs just 12 Democrats. Then 2024 reverses that. 23 Democrats vs. 10 Republicans.

I don't follow the dynamics of political power but I heard a commentator say something to the effect Democrats were more than a little stunned by the large differential between polling and the results of voting. I would say they should be. It suggests to me the country may be trending more to some nationalistic ideal of white perceptions of disenfranchisement by changing demographics. I concluded these folks are incapable of adapting to a changing world. That should remind folks of the status of dinosaurs ... adapt or suffer the consequences.

So again I suspect Democrats and liberals in general have an uphill battle in the coming years, the changes they propose should be considered by those folks unwilling or incapable of changing.

I can be just as happy with Trump instead of Biden. Democrats will likely take the Senate in 2022 and the presidency in 2024. With Biden at the helm neither of those things would happen.

Biden has won Michigan and Wisconsin giving him 264 electoral votes. Remaining are Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Georgia and Nevada. Trump has a slight lead in all of them except Nevada which won't resume counting until tomorrow. If Trump takes Pennsylvania, North Carolina and Georgia, very possible, he would end up with 268 electoral votes. Nevada would be the deciding state. In Nevada, Biden leads Trump by 8,000 votes with 25% left to be counted.

Senate wise, Collins surprised everyone by winning in Maine along with Ernst in Iowa. I figured those two states would go Democratic. So with the 2 Georgia races, North Carolina and Michigan still to be decided, the GOP has a 49-47 advantage. The Georgia Special will go to a runoff election on 5 Jan 2021, so we won't know who won that seat until then. Republican Purdue in Georgia has a 160,000 vote lead with 7% of the vote remaining to be counted. In North Carolina, Tillis leads by 93,000 votes with 6% left to be counted. Chances are the Republican incumbent wins both. Democrat Peters leads in Michigan by 15,000 votes with 4% remaining to be counted.

Purdue, Georgia, must achieve 50% plus one vote to avoid a runoff in January, so far he's at 50.4%. It also looks like the Democrats will lose 5-10 seats in the house, no big deal, they have plenty of seats that they can easily afford that. But that along with the senate makes this one weird election. Nothing normal about it.

Who would have thought Trump would make gains among minorities while Biden gained among whites.

I saw those numbers being reported last night. I wonder if they are %’s of votes cast in person or have they been updated with the mail-in’s? Not that it’s unreasonable given the Democrats taking their votes for granted over the years. Just wondering if the numbers are being updated with the ballots being counted.