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Interesting that DeSantis' war on Disney is a strategy to use government to suppress free speech. Right wingers are now:
Against free speech;
For higher corporate taxation;
Against businesses bearing the burden of their own infrastructure and security;
For higher property taxes on individuals;
For bigger government.
Strange world...
Should be some tasty election fodder for the Dems.
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You just have to yell a lot and keep the yokels scared and pissed off at someone else. So you're mostly just yelling at a different set of yokels and asking us to be scared and pissed off at the half of America you deem to be THE ENEMY. You yell FASCIST They yell SOCIALIST Everybody has a bit of both inside. I don't think either extreme is destined to become a reality in the foreseeable future. Except socialism, but that's 20+ years in the future and I'm afraid I won't live to see it. A lot of staunch Republicans love Disney World and are heavily invested in it. A lot of them live in gated communities in Disney developments where WDW is the homeowners association. These communities are liable to be facing massive property tax increases and a loss of services...while DeSantis is throwing red meat to the unwashed servant class he might inadvertently be costing their masters a fortune! But whether the law is ever enacted or the Reedy Creek Autonomous District(and no-fly zone) is dissolved is still in question. I expect a lot of paperwork and expensive lawyer time will need to go into it which will be followed by lawsuits back and forth over the course of the next few years when, ultimately, lawmakers will strike it down as not worth the time and money. Self-government, Loggy, Repubs are also against self-government.
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Funny they all were for "corporations are people with the right to free speech" until the biggest employer in Florida said something they don't like. Goes to show their ideology is a sham. They don't actually believe in anything other than power and money.
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I wonder if Disney cares. I also suspect they have lost a lot of money on their attractions in the last couple of years. As far as I know, however, they are doing well with movies and series. I also think that they actually own their land and it wasn't gifted by the state. So, I wonder what happens if they just shut down Disneyland, blow up everything that can't be moved and sell their land and leave. That, of course, will bankrupt the state of Florida and seriously damage land values in Florida as well.
One can only wonder!
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Goes to show their ideology is a sham. They don't actually believe in anything other than power and money. Their ideology is power and money...no sham at all. DeSantis says they can speak freely about any business matter that concerns them but the education bill is off-limits. If they wanted to petition the lords and ladies of the state to pay a lower salary to gay or trans employees they would be warmly welcomed in the inner circles of power. But they listened to foolish queer employees and took a stand against homophobia. Now they are canceled. I heard a rumor that "Woka Cola" is the next corporation in his sights...
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Could this be Ron DeSantis' Big Goof?
I predict that stripping Disney's great 'privilege' to manage its own infrastructure as punishment for corporate free speech - an act of malice without forethought - is going to be a long lasting bugaboo for the budding Strong Man. Disney says they can't do it without paying off the $Billion dollar debt first.
The hastily written two page legislation makes no effort to explain how it is done nor to unravel 50 years of contracts and agreements that ALL benefitted the two counties(Orange and Polk) and the state.
DeSantis has promised that Floridians won't pay a single cent in taxes and that Disney will now pay "its fair share". DeSantis just self-owned without any help from a mouse. If there is anything that Rightwingers are really good at...it's that they don't think things through. 
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Self-government, Loggy, Repubs are also against self-government. Aha! I knew I was missing an important one!
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The fact is, DeSantis is using his power as a right-wing authoritarian to force a responsible Capitalist enterprise into Socialism.
O, the irony!
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This ^^^
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The fact is, DeSantis is using his power as a right-wing authoritarian to force a responsible Capitalist enterprise into Socialism. I don't really consider things like fire depts, garbage collection and police to be "socialist" endeavors. If they were...right-leaning countries wouldn't have them.... Socialism begins when workers are exploited a little bit less. You know, living wages, health care, education. Putting armed enforcers on the streets, putting out fires and hauling off the garbage are not done for the good of the people, but for their rulers.
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