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Thanks, Rick.

The conspirators, in each effort, had the same goal. All of them knew that once the Electoral Vote was certified, the game was over. So, the goal was to prevent certification.

But the reality was, the game was over December 14, when the votes were taken and verified at the State level. Everything after that was illegal - that is, "without legal authority". In many cases they rose to the level of criminality.

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Originally Posted by NW Ponderer
Thanks, Rick.

The conspirators, in each effort, had the same goal. All of them knew that once the Electoral Vote was certified, the game was over. So, the goal was to prevent certification.

But the reality was, the game was over December 14, when the votes were taken and verified at the State level. Everything after that was illegal - that is, "without legal authority". In many cases they rose to the level of criminality.
None of these people truly understands how our government works. Seems to be a common theme with certain groups of people.


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As soon as the votes were all counted, they knew they would need a coup to keep Trump in power. It was always going to be sedition. They just wanted to inject enough confusion so they could make some excuses. I think it really threw a monkey wrench in their plans when ANTIFA didn't show up on January 6th. Trump could not declare martial law, when the only rioters were his crew.

The fact that Pence refused to leave the Capital screwed their plan as well. The funny thing is that numerous Republican lawmakers seemed to be in on the plan, because they kept on insisting the riot was all ANTIFA members, and there was a lot of talk about Somebody Else running the certification after Pence was presumable evacuated to Alaska.

I assume it's all documented in those "missing" Secret Service texts and the several hour gap in the White House recordings.


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Originally Posted by pondering_it_all
...numerous Republican lawmakers seemed to be in on the plan, because they kept on insisting the riot was all ANTIFA members....
I wrote this in another post, Fox News' Laura Ingraham was taping during the J6 insurrection, and she said it was antiFA that was the cause of the insurrection at the Capitol. She didn't have the up-to-date intel to know NOT to say that. Clearly that was to be the talking point that many Rwingers pre-agreed upon.

I agree, Republicans were absolutely in on the planned outcome of keeping Trump in power.


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Legal Expert Predicts Trump Indictment Will Come From Georgia Investigation Before DOJ

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/legal-expert-predicts-trump-indictment-165000206.html

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Given the scope of what the Justice Department has to prove in court, Tribe believes there is wrongdoing, but not enough evidence to prove wrongdoing “beyond a reasonable doubt.” Attorney Norman Eisen echoed Tribe’s claims because there are clear examples of violations of Georgia state election law on the books.

“I do believe that the great likelihood is that he’s heading towards an indictment,” Eisen told the Times, referring to Trump. “There is powerful proof of violations of Georgia law in the form of the smoking gun tape of him demanding 11,780 votes, when it is perfectly clear from that tape that he knows those votes do not exist,” the legal expert explained.


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Bannon found guilty. Will that influence other hold outs?


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Originally Posted by perotista
Legal Expert Predicts Trump Indictment Will Come From Georgia Investigation Before DOJ

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/legal-expert-predicts-trump-indictment-165000206.html.
Except the judge in the case said she'll not release the findings if the findings come within 60 days before the election. eek


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Originally Posted by NW Ponderer
Bannon found guilty. Will that influence other hold outs?
You mean Peter Navarro? Doubtful. Also Peter is acting as his own attorney. You know what they say about a person who represents himself at trial: "He has a fool for a client."

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I wonder what those jurors did for three hours? Maybe they just wanted a free lunch out of the deal? Awfully simple case: He got a subpoena. He failed to show up, and went on TV over and over to brag about it. No defense in court. Slam-dunk guilty.

That's an impossible to win case with a jury trial. Everybody in the jury got a summons and they all showed up. Why should Mister Bigshot not have to appear when he gets one?


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