Capitol Hill Blue Forums Political Issues Campaign 2020 J6: Putting it all together

How can he claim he didn't tell Cassidy that story if he can't remember? Seems this past Summer, Tony was going to counter what Cassidy said - now he can't remember?

Sounds like a dirty, filthy liar to me.

I think Tony Ornato should have stuck with his old pop trio act...Tony Ornato and Dawn, wasn't that it?

Droll, Jeff, very droll.

Per Politico, David Shafer, the chair of the Georgia Republican Party, has been identified as having a singularly significant role in the plot to overturn the results of the election in that state in 2020.

Judge Robert McBurney in the Superior Court of Fulton County, Georgia wrote in his ruling:


In the wide-ranging case, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis opened a criminal probe last year, investigating 16 Georgia Republicans who were offered as fake electors for the state in the 2020 election. The fake electors signed certificates declaring Trump had won the presidential election and offering themselves as official electors in order to certify Georgia’s election results for the former president.

Trump and the GOP had help in all levels of government on J6.

Why didn't the federal police and military sound the alarm when they knew in advance that an armed mob was coming to the Capitol to try to overthrow our government, and that many within the mob were armed and willing to kill (and did) to try to accomplish their goal? The armed mob posted about it in the open on social media.

Why did the Secret Service and the Department of Defense wipe their phones so the data could never be retrieved?

Republican Ron Paul's former staffer Elmer Stewart Rhodes, leader of the Oathkeepers, should not be the only one convicted of seditious conspiracy.

This should come as NO surprise whatsoever because that is precisely the kind of "work" that was being done BY folks like Stephen Miller and Steve Bannon and their sycophants. Despite the two not getting along, the fact is, they both were in charge of supervising a significant amount of the massacres that retooled the approach TAKEN BY these branches.

They did not directly do the legwork, no...but they laid out how to go about it.
Christopher Miller, Trump's handpicked ACTING SecDef, penned a stand-down order for all DoD personnel, specifically in regards to J6.

Conclusions in the J6C report show that members of the Pentagon, FBI, Secret Service and CIA of having been involved or at least aware of the plot to overthrow the capitol and did not respond or actively conspired to allow it to take place.

At least two top Pentagon officials were called to request they send military to protect the capitol when the attacks started but they refused and instead sent additional police to protect the generals homes in DC.

We know from the convictions of the Oath Keepers that the FBI had infiltrated that group and had an agent in the group that was aware of their plot but it appears nothing was done to stop the planned attacks. That happened on Barr's watch.

We know that a "former" CIA operative that was part of some group that mapped out potential CIA scenarios for how the US government could be overthrown and passed a plan on to Tario and the Proud Boys in a thumb drive. There was rumors before the attack that Tario was working for the FBI in a deal he made on other charges.

We know that Pence did not trust the secret service and they lied about Trump trying to go to the capitol and then deleted all their communications. Biden has said he didn't trust his own SS because they are all southern white conservatives that were former cops.

Everything points to a serious problem in these departments that appear to have been infiltrated by far right extremists and coordinated with Trump's team or on their own to facilitate the coup and attacks on the capitol.

Garland has apparently flushed out and forced several members of the DOJ/FBI to resign or be fired but the Pentagon, CIA and Secret Service have their own chain of command and we don't know if they have investigated and cleaned out their ranks of these extremists.

There is no doubt, that given the opportunity that they will do it again. Special Prosecutor Smith certainly has his work cut out for him.

I think I typed of this very problem before the election, asking the question, what if Trump would not leave the WH. I was not the only one to ask the question. Apparently Gen Milley was concerned enough to ask the same question and it's extension, could the military be engaged in Trump maintaining control of the government if he lost. Some said no way could it happen in America. Yikes ... were they ever misguided.

I believe the assault to undermine Democracy continues today. Radicalization of military personnel, and law enforcement and the delusions Christian Nationalists, white supremacists, and plain old ignorant folk all contribute to a continuing threat to Democracy. I believe we are teetering on the precipice of failure of Democracy or the continuation of the experiment. I always remind myself, how Lenin led workers and the military in an insurrection. Could our government be overthrown by a select few? Key military leaders, a dedicated cadre of militias and MAGA-heads converging on the right inflection point at the right time, could easily overthrow the government. Had the ground forces of the insurrection been better managed, I suspect they would have been successful in not only thwarting the count, Trump would have declared martial law, and installed himself as de facto Pres.

The question is, who would have prevented it???? Not the Congress, they would be detained .... not the Courts .... they have no enforcement power .... not the military .... they rely on the Pres, and even if they believed it an illegal order, what would they do? nothing. Take a poll. It can't happen in America. It did but was unsuccessful.

Trump's failed coup timeline

The timeline extends beyond what is quoted here.

It has come to light that Rep. Barry Loudermilk (R-GA) gave a tour of the office buildings on Capitol Hill to individuals that were eventually involved in the attack on the Capitol. Security footage shows Loudermilk showing individuals the hallway that connects the Capitol and those office buildings. They were seen taking photos of such tunnels, stairwells, and the security desk. The committee investigating J6 never accused him of anything.

The committee wanted to ask him what happened, if he knew the man in the video. Loudermilk refused to cooperate. If he did nothing wrong, shouldn't be concerned about answering questions?