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If everything works out then its next step time. This time creating an actual home for the Palestinians as originally planned. I watched them returning to where they lived and found just rubble.

That's gonna be pretty interesting!

I agree. There are oil fields off the coast of Gaza that the UN laid claim to the Palestinians. The end game of wiping out the Palestinian people is the not only agenda item for conservative Zionists.

I think Biden has got to stop dancing around and actually shut it all down until the new Palestine is accomplished. Until that's done they will keep on slaughtering them. If the oil belongs to Palestine then that's the way it is. It seems to me that Israel doesn't need anything so we should not waste our time as they aren't upset at all at Biden threats.

I also think that Palestine was the original thing, Israel promised to make the Palestinians ciitizens which may have happened to a few but most, as far as I know are not. Instead they are something to make gone. Right now its a little like the Israel nuclear bomb. They got that even though they were told not to do that. They have had it for years;. We were not in favor of it but they did it anyway and nothing happened. I think they think they got us by the balls and can do whatever they want whenever they want.

Time to change I think.............

Biden, I think, is determined not to win his second term. I am saying this because he continues to support Netanyahu no matter what. He keeps giving him bombs and, now, it seems he is also determined to support war itself. Instead of reigning in Netanyahu he just keeps on giving him bombs and now he's not just supporting bombs to kill Palestinians but, apparently, he is going to war with Iran which can really grow and grow and grow. If you think that the marches over the Palestinians are a big deal wait when we get our military over there to bail him out (regardless of the simple fact that Netanyahu started it all).

I know, everybody thought it was all over. I just heard about how a ammunition depot in another country but owned by Iran and was apparently bombed by Israel.

I wish us all luck.....

obviously, I was flat out wrong as per the blabla above this. Apparenty Iran is going to ignore the last one. This being the case its Iran who is saving the day. and Netanyahu will be continuing the slaughter of more Parestinians and Biden will proudly state how he is supporting Israel. Its not quite as disgusting as I had inferred - apologies.......

Ok, I’ll break with my oath of not engaging with rightwing ideologues as there’s nothing to be gained from doing so but this state of international affairs is to ironic, stupid and dangerous to pass up.
One the one hand, Congress just passed another fat war funding bill aimed at supporting two fascist ethno states. The right wing Dem party went all fandom waving flags of the ethnic white fascist regime in the Ukraine cuz Russia while the further right simmered with rage at the thought of betrayal from House Speaker Johnson’s eleventh hour compromise war funding bill. A bill that was primarily opposed by the no good, terrible anti war republican conservatives that the Dem war party can’t stand from an aesthetic sensibility.

Not that Conservatives don’t mind the killing of Muslims in particular or brown skinned cultures in general. They’ve been on board with the Israelis and their ethnofascists genocide. Just as they’ve been on board with killing Muslims or darker complected countries for, what, 50 years or better?

What an odd state of affairs. Each rightwing team has a favored ethnofascist vassal state, actively trying to cleanse an ethnic group from its borders, while the two imperial parties argue over which vassal is deserving or undeserving of billions of dollars.

Upshot: Both! You get a ethnofascist vassal state and you get an ethnofascist vassal state…

Question, how do declare a holy war against the left, globally, support coups and state violence against left wing governments, back far right dictatorships and neofascists and not become so yourself?

Answer: you already are

All those spook stories being obsessed here and in corporate propaganda media over Russian election interference while AIPAC laughs its head off…

I really have no idea what you are talking about. Here I what I think is happening. Russia decided, again, that Ukraine is part of Russia and invaded that country. We disagreed and has supported the Ukrainians by sending money and war goods. Whilst this is going on countries like Poland are also spending more and more money on their own military (Poland is not alone) as they believe thaqt after Ukraine they will be the next Russian conquest.

Its interesting. Should Russia actually win and goes shopping for more we will do exactly what we did when Hitler did the same thing. We sent OUR troops so that stopped and there is no doubt we will do the same again because we do not have a war with Russia on our own land. It makes no different whether anybody agrees or not, the facts are simple. Right now we think the deal with Ukraine is a real good deal. We supply the goods instead of supplying goods AND the blood of American military.

We have nuclear bombs. Russia has approximately 10 times the number of nuclear bombs. Should we get involved with war on Russia Putin has already said that the nuclear bombs WILL come out. There are a number of folks who know about such things who believe that will make the end of the world as we know it.

So, basically, if we can help the Ukrainians to remain out of Russian hands we save the world. It seems to me that we have a good deal going on. I am really sick and tired of the United States sending our military out to die here and there. What we did with Hitler worked. Hopefully the same will happen this time around............

I wish us all good luck.

Putin controls about 5,580 nuclear warheads, according to the Federation of American Scientists.
Of those about 1,200 are retired but largely intact and around 4,380 are stockpiled for use by long-range strategic launchers and shorter-range tactical nuclear forces, according to the FAS.
Of the stockpiled warheads, 1,710 strategic warheads are deployed: about 870 on land-based ballistic missiles, about 640 on submarine-launched ballistic missiles, and possibly 200 at heavy bomber bases, FAS said.

As of early 2023, the United States has 5,244 nuclear warheads, including 1,536 that are retired and awaiting dismantlement.
This includes 3,750 active and inactive warheads, and about 2,000 that are retired and awaiting dismantlement.

Wow! I was, obviously, wrong - apologies. I do remember, however seeing, someplace, that we had a lot fewer. That being said, when I rely on my own memory, its quite possible I screwed up - I will try and be more careful in the future.

Anyway, once one side starts with the nukes the other side will do the same and the results will not be good (which was my basic thought and Putin has been threatening for a while, now and I suspect he is quite capable of starting a nuclear war where nobody wins in the end.