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California's Prop 8, which bans same-sex marriage will be reviewed by the California Supreme Court as to the validity of the proposition(which, IMHO, should have been done before the election  ) REPORTING FROM SAN FRANCISCO -- The California Supreme Court agreed today to review legal challenges to Prop. 8, the voter initiative that restored a ban on same-sex marriage, but refused to permit gay weddings to resume pending a ruling.
Meeting in closed session, the state high court asked litigants on both sides for more written arguments and scheduled a hearing for next March. The court also signaled its intention to decide the fate of existing same-sex marriages, asking litigants to argue that question.
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My date with Mr. eHarmony Rebecca Traister, Salon.com
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Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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Good news, Scout, although March is going to seem so far away...
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Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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The times they are a' changing: Online dating service eHarmony is adding another personality trait to its 29 dimensions of computability.
The California-based company will begin providing same-sex matches under as part of a settlement with New Jersey's Civil Rights Division. I'm assuming this lawsuit was because eHarmony did not offer their services to gay and lesbian clients. The article is short on details. We actually had a thread about eHarmony not allowing gays, or lesbians to have accounts. A lesbian brought a lawsuit that started that thread - which was sometime earlier this year.
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California's Prop 8, which bans same-sex marriage will be reviewed by the California Supreme Court as to the validity of the proposition... I think that giving time for this review will allow the bigots time to let it "sink-in" that they are going to lose and allow them time to emotionally adjust to their loss. ...just a theory. 
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Let the boycotts begin! Boy is Cinemark/Century/CeneArts pissed!!  (Read the entire letter!  )
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Text of the order: The motion for judicial notice filed in S168047 by petitioners on November 5, 2008, is GRANTED. The requests for a stay of Proposition 8 filed by petitioners
in S168047 and in S168066 are DENIED. Respondent Secretary of State Bowen's request to be dismissed as a respondent in S168066 is GRANTED. (Kevelin v.
Jordan (1964) 62 Cal.2d 82.) The motions to intervene in S168047, S168066, and S168078, filed on November 17, 2008, by Proposition 8 Official Proponents et al.
are GRANTED. The motions to intervene in S168047, S168066, and S168078, filed on November 10, 2008, by Campaign for California Families, are DENIED.
The State of California, the Attorney General, the State Registrar of Vital Statistics, and the Deputy Director of Health Information and Strategic Planning of
the California Department of Public Health are ORDERED TO SHOW CAUSE before this court, when the above entitled matters are called on calendar, why the
relief sought by petitioners should not be granted. The issues to be briefed and argued in these matters are as follows:
(1) Is Proposition 8 invalid because it constitutes a revision of, rather than an amendment to, the California Constitution? (See Cal. Const., art. XVIII, sections 1-4.)
(2) Does Proposition 8 violate the separation of powers doctrine under the California Constitution? (3) If Proposition 8 is not unconstitutional, what is its
effect, if any, on the marriages of same-sex couples performed before the adoption of Proposition 8? The return is to be filed by respondents, and a brief may be filed
by intervenors, in the San Francisco Office of the Supreme Court on or before Friday, December 19, 2008. A reply may be filed by petitioners in the San
Francisco Office of the Supreme Court on or before Monday, January 5, 2009. Any application to file an amicus curiae brief, accompanied by the proposed brief,
may be filed in the San Francisco Office of the Supreme Court on or before Thursday, January 15, 2009. Any reply to an amicus curiae brief may be filed in
the San Francisco Office of the Supreme Court on or before Wednesday, January 21, 2009.
Moreno, J. joins this order except that he would grant the requests to stay the operation of Proposition 8 pending this court's resolution of these matters.
Kennard, J. would deny these petitions without prejudice to the filing in this court of an appropriate action to determine Proposition 8's effect, if any, on the
marriages of same-sex couples performed before Proposition 8's adoption.
Votes: George, C.J., Baxter, Werdegar, Chin, Moreno, and Corrigan, JJ.
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The boycott of cinemark is very much in the gay blogoshpere. I find it very ironic that Prop 8 supporters who cry "foul" over our boycotts of their businesses also are saying the we should not appeal the issue to the court. but then it is clear logic has nothing to do with their position.
Life is a banquet -- and most poor suckers are starving to death -- Auntie Mame
You are born naked and everything else is drag - RuPaul
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Thank you for this link NW. I actually found it interesting and (like the interviewer, not completely what I expected) I did notice that the interview took place in 2005. From a gay perspective (because, well, that's a perspective I have), I found a lot of Warren's statements to be very accepting and his proclamations like: "I've begun saying to our people that we've got to reach every person on earth," he said. "These Iraqis who keep getting killed every day, they are just as valuable as the GIs getting killed." to be very compassionate and genuine yet he stopped short of gays and lesbians in his 'everyone on earth' statement. Even though in 2005 he said Warren brought up his best friend's daughter, a lesbian who has two children with her partner. "She's a dear person to us, and a very strong spiritual person," he said. "And when I start seeing things like that, I think we've got to start to think about that maybe this can work." Which sounds good until you remember that he just said "It's just not an easy point! We've got thousands of years of history of the human race in which this was never treated as a marriage and there are a lot of people who think it's just not going to have the same kind of stability over time. It all goes to hell. When I think of American marriage, stability is not the first word that comes to mind. I think of multiple marriages and quickie divorces. I fail to see the disconnect people like Warren have when they know that there are people who are fighting for that simple right. Though I doubt I will ever get married, I can see clearly a community that desires, in all their hearts, to have that simple right. Warren seems introspective and perceptive in relationships, the fact that he has a lesbian friend, with a partner and children and STILL can't support that, is an enormous flaw in his character. I'm pleased his company will now have a gay alternative to his site even if it contains the disclaimer that these tests were created for straight people.
We are constantly invited to be who we are. Henry David Thoreau
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Damn, Jeffro - don't knock quickie divorces till you've needed one!  (And while I hope you get the [legal recognition of your] right, I also hope you never have the need.)
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