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Originally Posted by california rick
Let the boycotts begin! Boy is Cinemark/Century/CeneArts pissed!! laugh

(Read the entire letter! LOL )

That letter was great Rick! The follow-up after they received the canned response was even better! I rarely go to Cinemark, but I have seen a few things there, I will not be seeing "Milk" or anything else there in the future. Thanks!


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heres a handy chart for reference

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Schlack, I was counting on you - I nearly posted that last night but thought "no, go to bed - Schlack will get it in the morning!"


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Originally Posted by Mellowicious
Damn, Jeffro - don't knock quickie divorces till you've needed one!

respect (And while I hope you get the [legal recognition of your] right, I also hope you never have the need.)

Not knocking it Julia, just get tired of the dreamy rhetoric from the defense of marriage types ("it's just not going to have the same kind of stability over time" really rubbed me the wrong way and cracked me up simultaneously).

I don't think I'm the marrying type. I also keep falling for straight guys - one of the guys at work has a gay mother - he is very open and funny. The day after Yes on 8 won, I told him he was going to have to marry his girlfriend now since it wasn't going to happen with us. He jokingly said "yeah, but we can still cuddle". Another young straight Latino guy I work with came up to me after the vote and said "I would like to apologize for my people". shocked

Like Phil (and Dylan) said "The times they are a-changing"


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An opinion with which I completely agree: California's same-sex marriage case affects all of us - Kermit Roosevelt, Christian Science Monitor
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If a majority could overrule a judicial decision, the process would frequently be stopped by that majority vote. Judicial interventions against discrimination would just not succeed.

Regardless of where you stand on same-sex marriage, what's troubling for US citizens in the California case is the idea that an equality guarantee could not be effectively enforced against the will of a majority. The point of such a guarantee is precisely to protect minorities from discrimination at the hands of a majority.
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It makes sense to require supermajority support to overrule a judicial decision that grants rights to a minority. It shows that the judges were so out of step with society that they were probably wrong. But a simple majority does not show that, and the constitution would not afford meaningful protection if it could be overruled at the will of the majority.
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This is not an argument that the California court was correct. The battle for public opinion goes on. But letting the court's decision stand against the disapproval of a simple majority is not only sensible, it protects the minority rights of future generations.

Unpopular decisions are the price of constitutional rights.



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A juvenile court judge in Miami on Monday allowed a gay couple to adopt two children who had been in their foster care, ruling that a Florida law banning gay couples from adopting is unconstitutional.

Miami Dade Circuit Judge Cindy Lederman ruled Tuesday there was "no rational basis" for prohibiting gays from adopting children.

The ruling will allow Martin Gill to adopt two young brothers he has cared for as foster children since 2004. Gill said when he and his partner agreed to act as foster parents to the boys, he expected it would be for just a few months.

As time went on and it became clear that the boys would not be returning to their family, Gill said he knew he'd have to challenge the state law.

Some other states have similar laws on the books, but Florida's law is the strictest in the nation banning adoptions because of sexual orientation.

In granting the adoption, Lederman said there is a consensus among researchers that there is no reason to prohibit adoptions by gay couples.

Lawyers representing Florida's Department of Children & Families said they will appeal the decision.

This is from NPR and is the entire article


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That's lovely! I especially like this part:

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Miami Dade Circuit Judge Cindy Lederman ruled Tuesday there was "no rational basis" for prohibiting gays from adopting children.
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When voters in California, Florida and Arizona approved measures banning same-sex marriage last month, opponents lamented that the country appeared to be turning increasingly intolerant toward gay and lesbian rights. But the latest NEWSWEEK Poll finds growing public support for gay marriage and civil unions—and strong backing for the granting of certain rights associated with marriage, to same-sex couples. Click here to see full poll

Americans continue to find civil unions for gays and lesbians more palatable than full-fledged marriage. Fifty-five percent of respondents favored legally sanctioned unions or partnerships, while only 39 percent supported marriage rights. Both figures are notably higher than in 2004, when 40 percent backed the former and 33 percent approved of the latter. When it comes to according legal rights in specific areas to gays, the public is even more supportive. Seventy-four percent back inheritance rights for gay domestic partners (compared to 60 percent in 2004), 73 percent approve of extending health insurance and other employee benefits to them (compared to 60 percent in 2004), 67 percent favor granting them Social Security benefits (compared to 55 percent in 2004) and 86 percent support hospital visitation rights (a question that wasn't asked four years ago). In other areas, too, respondents appeared increasingly tolerant. Fifty-three percent favor gay adoption rights (8 points more than in 2004), and 66 percent believe gays should be able to serve openly in the military (6 points more than in 2004).

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Don't know if you've seen this yet, but this little video clip is marvelous! Too bad it didn't come out before the election, but it's still worth watching...and hilarious! laugh
Prop 8: The Musical


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The biggest negative recurring point in the poll: People over 65 still think there is a connection between homosexuality and pedophilia. When it comes to both elementary school teachers and adoption, they are not so comfortable with gay people having responsibility over children.

Other than that, I find most of it very encouraging. It looks like we could even get a federal recognition of same-sex civil unions with all rights of heterosexual marriages. It's not

Bow Bow Bow Marriage Bow Bow Bow

but it's quite worthwhile persuing.

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