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I think the results were closer to 48/52% Jeffro  A study came out today that analyzed those who voted yes. Turns out, they were not college educated AND they made less than 40K a year. Of the religions: 89% of Evangelicals voted yes 66% of Prostetants 60% of Catholics Where do the Mormans fall in line - with the Evangelicals? Here is the link.
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Some of us haven't had a legal question to vote on. I have no "real-world" support regarding the California constitution, as I can't vote in California.
My earlier post was a good-will gesture, yes. As a non-California resident, emotional/moral support and good will is what I have to offer in the Prop 8 fight -- that, and whatever I choose to write on the web.
That post was also intended as a direct response to the statement that "it's an issue for all of us." Phil sounded tired and angry, and I was trying to respond to that, as a friend.
Of course an offer of support doesn't change anything. Wishing Ag a fast recovery doesn't change anything either, but that wouldn't stop me from doing it.
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According to the study linked above, poor dumbf^cks voted yes. Figures.
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According to the study linked above, poor dumbf^cks voted yes. Figures. Support winning attitude 
A gem cannot be polished without friction, nor a man perfected without trials. ~Chinese Proverb
The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese. ~Jon Hammond
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That's pretty mean, rick. The article you linked is very interesting, though. Among the findings reported: Blacks, widely reported to have voted 70 percent in favor in rescinding marriage rights for gay and lesbian families, were shown in the poll, conducted by the Public Policy Institute of California, to be markedly less supportive of the amendment than originally believed. And apropos to your comment: Baldassare was uncertain as to why education and income differences would have factored into the picture as decisively as they did, but he did offer an opinion.
"It has to do with exposure to different ideas.
"It’s perceptions about lifestyle differences, tolerance for differences, broader view of social trends and issues--all those things tend to come with more education." Not everyone who lacks a college education is a "poor dumbf#ck". The study also showed a much larger percentage of Latinos favored Prop 8 than originally reported - another population with less access to higher education, for a variety of reasons. Bottom line: the sooner we elect a President like Dennis Kucinich, who alone among candidates campaigned on a promise to make college education accessible to all young people, the sooner discrimination like that perpetuated by Prop 8 will end.
Steve Give us the wisdom to teach our children to love,
to respect and be kind to one another,
so that we may grow with peace in mind.
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"Life is not about waiting for the storms to pass...it's about learning how to dance in the rain."
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Some of us haven't had a legal question to vote on. I have no "real-world" support regarding the California constitution, as I can't vote in California.
My earlier post was a good-will gesture, yes. As a non-California resident, emotional/moral support and good will is what I have to offer in the Prop 8 fight -- that, and whatever I choose to write on the web.
That post was also intended as a direct response to the statement that "it's an issue for all of us." Phil sounded tired and angry, and I was trying to respond to that, as a friend.
Of course an offer of support doesn't change anything. Wishing Ag a fast recovery doesn't change anything either, but that wouldn't stop me from doing it. Wait, what did I say? I didn't intend to criticize anyone. The point I was trying to make was that I don't think RR is as much a 'bubble' as Rick thinks it is. I believe we have more support than we ever have. I'm sorry if I wasn't clear, I should never try to post when I'm at work.
We are constantly invited to be who we are. Henry David Thoreau
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At the risk of unending repetition, I wish I could vote in CA, but I cannot. I am very much a supporter of equality for all and do what I can, including contributions to Lambda legal, when I can. I have posted frequently here on RR on the subject and follow it ardently. I think that the longer reality continues to confront the ideological cocoon that the Prop 8 supporting population inhabits, the more their illogical fantasy world will continue to crumble. I truly believe that the homophobic order is crumbling in the United States, but like the Bush administration "burrowing in" like-minded ideologues into the infrastructure of government before being ousted, there are dozens of State laws that will have to be repealed, or overturned in order to achieve the goal. My fantasy - Jeffro started it! - is that the SCOTUS will rule that such laws are constitutionally impermissible and overturn them all as unconstitutional - achieving in one fell swoop the return to constitutional balance that these enactments have set askance, akimbo, off-kilter. Obama is the one to make that a reality. 
A well reasoned argument is like a diamond: impervious to corruption and crystal clear - and infinitely rarer.
Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich
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Some of us haven't had a legal question to vote on. Wait, what did I say? No, Jeffro, damn, I did it again. My post followed yours but did not refer directly to yours. Why do I keep doing that?  Sorry for the confusion.
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But he needs a vacancy among the Gang of Four or Kennedy to tip the balance back toward reason.
"The white men were as thick and numerous and aimless as grasshoppers, moving always in a hurry but never seeming to get to whatever place it was they were going to." Dee Brown
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