Kaine is weak, as has been noted here many times in the recent past. His convictions are not very convincing. Pence, while being a right wing bigot, is very sure of his convictions. Not that I think this debate will matter one whit. Both have the charisma of wet rag. I don't think they'll add anything to the respective campaigns.


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Lenny Bruce

"The cleverest of all, in my opinion, is the man who calls himself a fool at least once a month."
Dostoevsky