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socialists are rarely the extreme groups that want the state to have everything because the state is the citizens.
Socialists have never been extreme groups that want the state to have everything.
Socialists are now and have always been supporters of the working class.
The Proletariet.
It's an ongoing existential struggle that has been with us throughout our history in one form or another.It is, perhaps, what sets us apart from the other animals.