Originally Posted by Greger
My goal is two steps to the left. Maybe drop Medicare enrollment to 55 over 10 years, raise the federal minimum wage to $10. That'd be about all you could expect with Bernie or Liz at the helm. I expect nothing from Biden.

I understand your nostalgia for those peaceful years when you could hang effigies of the president and call his children and wife vile names. A sort of calm between two despotic Republicans. Biden might get us four years of calm but then along comes another Republican and away we go again. I'd have been happy with ANY other candidate, even Bloomberg. I'm a lefty and a socialist but I'm also aware of what can and can't be accomplished in Washington.

I got you. Each of us has our reason why we vote the way we do. those reasons are import to each individual. A return to sanity is important to me. But I want that return without having to lurch us 50,000 miles to the left. That would be another total disruption in my mind, no better, no worst than Trump. I think each of us has our comfort zone, Sanders and warren are out of mine. Although any other Democrat would do nicely.

I've been comfortable with every president in my lifetime. I was born right after WWII. Trump, I'm not. But I see no reason to replace a president I'm uncomfortable with with another I would be uncomfortable with. I'm not a partisan and never have been an ideologue. I've always been happy with a medium between the two parties. I love divided government, the only real check on a presidents power. As congress members of the same party of the president are more part of the administration than members of the institution of congress. Little steps to the left and right are fine. No gigantic leaps across the Grand Canyon one way or the other. If Sanders were the nominee, I'd vote third party this November just like I did in 2016. Against both him and Trump. I'll vote for Biden in November if he is the nominee.

Sane, reliable, steady leadership with no lurches.


It's high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first instead of their political party. For way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.