Originally Posted by chunkstyle
That sounds like restrained wisdom. I see no evidence of what your talking about in the historical record. No progress has been made by a 'don't ask for too much' approach. Rather, it's a way to lower expectations of those being under served by those that benefit from the system as it is.

Again, you just witnessed the largest wealth transfer in human history under the CARES act and there was crickets about it being too radical or not slow and steady enough. Hmmm...

You also have to ignore the fact that voter preferences have no effect on legislation. Zero. Almost all legislation is being written by lobbyist. Medicare for all has broad popular support yet the current political leadership is against it in favor of a system costing twice as much while delivering terrible results compared to our peer countries.

No, reducing peoples expectations is just a way of those benefiting from the system to gas light those that aren't from wondering 'where's our help?'

Trillions dropped over of the Hamptons... crickets...
Hmm, voter preferences. In 2008 the voters elected Obama to fix the economy, he provided the stimulus. They he went a bit too far as the voters were concerned to the tune of a 63 house seat loss along with 8 more in the senate. The voter preference back in 2010 was no ACA. Obama finished his last six years in office as a caretaker president constantly defending the ACA when so much else could have, might have been accomplished if he listened to the voter preferences at the time.

That wasn't what the people elected Obama to do, one could say because of that, it lead to Trump.


It's high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first instead of their political party. For way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.