Originally Posted by Kaine
It seems to me, that for Trump to be leading Biden in the polls, is either because the polls are skewed, or there are democrats now voting for Trump.

Our country is doomed!
No, democrats aren’t voting for Trump. It’s Biden whom independents have soured on. Remember Biden won independents in 2020 by 13 points, 54-41 with 5% voting third party against both Biden and trump. The average among independents today is Trump 31%, Biden 27%, other 12%, not sure 6%, will not vote 23%. The last thing independents want is a rematch in 2024. A lot of independents who didn’t vote in 2016 because of their disliked and unwantedness of both Trump and Clinton, went to the polls in 2020 to vote against Trump, for Biden. Although their votes weren’t necessarily for Biden, just against Trump. In 2024 most of those independents voters who stayed home in 2016 but voted in 2020 are planning on staying home again in 2024. They refuse to choose between in their minds, two unwanted and disliked candidates. There’s no love out there, especially among independents for either Trump or Biden. Even among Democrats, there’s no excitement for Biden. But I imagine the hatred for Trump will get them to the polls.

You have this - Two-thirds of Democratic and Democratic-leaning registered voters surveyed by CNN and SSRS from 25 to 31 August said they would prefer someone other than Biden. Among those voters, 18% specified another candidate but the overwhelming majority – 82% – said they “just want to see someone besides” the current president.

The above taken from: Majority of likely Democratic voters say party should ditch Biden, poll shows

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/07/joe-biden-poll-2024-election-democrats

The bottom line is Trump is just as disliked and unwanted as he was in 2020. But Biden has dropped down to Trump level in the dislike and unwanted to become the next president column. There’re way too many reasons for this for me to go into without writing a book. The major cause of the tie between Trump and Biden is independents, the election deciders. They want someone else other than either Trump or Biden. It’s that simple. But they’re not going to get it. The result, many will stay home and not vote, others who do vote will vote third party against both Biden and Trump, ALA 2016.

It's high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first instead of their political party. For way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.