Originally Posted by kap17
Originally Posted by Jeffro
Originally Posted by kap17
Originally Posted by SkyHawk
[quote=Phil Hoskins]Sky,. we discussed Ms. Paglia's commentary on another thread
I see... you discussed the commentary she wrote today ..last month? rolleyes And what about Mark Simpson?

Their points are well taken. Get govt out of religion (marriage) and religion out of civil unions. Let's ALL have civil unions.

The gay community says that takes too much work and too much time. Go figure.


Do we really? Fascinating.

I'm only restating something state by the thread started in a different thread when the topic came up.

http://readerrant.capitolhillblue.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=85450[/quote] But, Kap, you are still overlooking the fact that Proposition 8 was a broadside attack on gays. We HAD been granted marriage, why would we be out there fighting for changing everything to civil unions and reserving 'marriage' for religious institutions when equality had been legally declared?

This is an idea that has really only started gathering steam since Prop 8 passed. Perhaps someone should have thought of it earlier and perhaps someone did, but when you are attempting to get equality, the first course of action is to gain acceptance within an existing institution.

Don't you think that attempting to change everyone's 'marriage' to a civil union so that gays and straights would have equality would be met with as much or more objection if that were the first tactic? That seems like it would come off as some selfish minority trying to change everything to fit their needs. AND you can bet that the phrase 'redfining marriage' would be flying even more over that.


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