Originally Posted by california rick
Originally Posted by Phil Hoskins
Yes, exactly the point I have been making all along. Glad he was able to put it in a way that you got it, Rick.
Not to point fingers (Kap17), but it is other Ranters who feel that gays have legimate equal rights this very moment.

P-I-A has succinctly put into perspective of how and why gays do not have the same benefits as straights at the moment.

As for me, I've just gone along for the ride and truly did not connect the dots as P-I-A has done.

I don't think that gays have equal right right now. But due to my personal beliefs I cannot support "marriage for everyone" 100%. I do support civil unions with equal federal/local rights for everyone and marriage up to the church.

If you take that as not supporting the "gay cause" so be it. I don't need to be sorry for my personal beliefs.


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